Quick epilepsy update - Page 19

Necrobaron · #**181** 03-29-2011, 08:46 PM

The solution...it's so logical! Maybe we could having warning screens and options settings for other controversial aspects too.

Fearfactor · #**182** 03-29-2011, 10:40 PM

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

sod16 · #**183** 03-29-2011, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fearfactor

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Steam servers are sometimes screwed up. Generally though, I like the service though I dont use it much. ALl i know is the download speeds off the site always max my connection

Rodney · #**184** 03-30-2011, 12:50 AM

Excellent news! Thankyou!

Tacoma74 · #**185** 03-30-2011, 05:49 AM

Awesome. Just how it should be. Very much appreciated Luthier! Keep up the good work!

robtek · #**186** 03-30-2011, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearfactor

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Well, i imagine that to build what steam offers would cost 1c and/or ubi more than the loss of even 200000 (largely exaggerated, imho) sales.
So it is a net gain for 1c/ubi and only the loss of the "steam-haters", isn't it?

Wynthorpe · #**187** 03-30-2011, 07:32 AM

Well said robtek! Those staying away cause they "hate steam" for some rediculous reason are just going to loose out and have to keep playing with an old sim.

jimbop · #**188** 03-30-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wynthorpe

Well said robtek! Those staying away cause they "hate steam" for some rediculous reason are just going to loose out and have to keep playing with an old sim.

Agree. Most people still playing IL-2 will get into CoD even with steam. Especially when the IL-2 servers dry up.

200000k? Really... Anyway, whatever sales are lost because of steam will be more than made up for. Just think of the exposure - still on the Top 20 list.

carguy_ · #**189** 03-30-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Fearfactor

They can fix the filter problem but not get rid of the Steam problem? I frequent some IL2 forums where about 90% of the people are staying away from this game due to Steam. That would not include this forum, the Ubi-zoo or SimHQ, however. Those forums are roughly flip-flopped, where about 80% are not concerned about Steam at all. But the game would get much better sales overall without Steam. Maybe as much as 200,000 more people buying, but that's just a guesstimate on my part. Whether people can understand it or not, there are a lot of us Steam haters around. Get used to it, you can't wish it away.

Maybe ppl bypassing Steam would reconsider once they saw the numbers of IL-2 sales back in the days. All of the old titles sales have been bad, and I saw few interviews with Oleg Maddox saying close to 50% onliners didn`t buy the game at all (some say that it is closer to 95%). It is entirely understandable for me that 1C would use SOME kind of protection this time, even if it prevents pirates only from playing online. But the catch here is : online is the place to be. Saying that more ppl would buy this without Steam is simply untrue - they would simply torrent it because they can. And from what I heard and read, the 200.000 figure would be a big success for 1C if CloD ever sold like that.
With a market as small as that, every sold copy counts.

ATAG_Doc · #**190** 03-30-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbop

Agree. Most people still playing IL-2 will get into CoD even with steam. Especially when the IL-2 servers dry up.

That is a given. The nature of the beast. Just like cell phones. As soon as the new one comes along there will be a steady bleeding off of the old people step into the new. There will be a long period of life still for the old but it will be a steady decline. This is just life in the sim world.