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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 11-08-2010, 03:06 AM
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Unfortunately ATI seems to be rather uninterested what Maddox Games does. IIRC Oleg once complained that they never answered his calls for technical support so that MG had to fiddle with ATI problems on their own. Nvidia was a lot more responsive, hence the traditional edge their cards have in Il-2. I don't know if that's changed ...
Nvidia had excellent OpenGL support which accounted for their edge over ATI. Since SOW is going the DX9/10/11 route I imagine it will be even footing again. Like I said before, there were countless games ATI ran just as well or better than Nvidia, and they all had that "Nvidia" logo at the beginning.

Nvidia better get their act together and stop worrying about getting their logo on games. Nobody buys Call of Duty/MOH/WOW, sees the Nvidia logo, and then goes out and buys an Nvidia card. People who are smart enough to buy and install a video card are smart enough to look at a GPU chart and see that there are better options for less money that Nvidia's current offerings.

Personally I want to see them regain some ground from ATI so that ATI will drop their prices even further.
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Old 11-08-2010, 03:21 AM
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Won't the Hyperlobby make a place for Storm Of War right after it comes out just like they did with the 2001 IL-2 Demo and so on. Hyperlobby is the only way to go for online play...right?
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:33 AM
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ElAurens is probably thinking along these lines: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=123

I had problems with anything newer than 8.9 in IL-2 (until the 4870 died), then further issues popped up in the early 10s, then they fixed it in 10.5 (or 3?), then on their next release I saw a bunch of posts about the same issues returning (!), and now you're saying it's good in 10.10. I see too many posts that report the exact same issues, to believe the problems are due to anything other than the ATI drivers.

And then there's the better nvidia support for linux (which matters to me).
The "problem" is an dated engine using an less used API, and slow solution delivery by ATI regards to drivers issues.

People confuse that with the illogical believes like "ATI runs worse IL-2 than NVIDIA" and "Water=4 in NVIDIA has a HUGE difference over Water=2 in ATI".

Those things don't happens with modern VGAs. They have PLENTY of horsepower to runs IL-2 at the maximum level with only the drops in performance induced by the dated engine, even in NASA computers.

SoW : BoB = DX10, DX11 = standard for game development today = ATI and NVIDIA performing at the same level, with minor gains for one side, as in ANY other title...

Things are simple.
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:41 AM
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Won't the Hyperlobby make a place for Storm Of War right after it comes out just like they did with the 2001 IL-2 Demo and so on. Hyperlobby is the only way to go for online play...right?
I would expect SOW not to need Hyperlobby at all.
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Old 11-08-2010, 08:01 AM
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Really? There would be a base gathering point and then other arenas?
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:40 AM
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I would expect SOW not to need Hyperlobby at all.
Of course SOW needing HL. Dont you fly VR - Virtual Battlefield, Vow, Blue VS Red ect? So of course SOW will be justified in HL. Just because some believe a product they have not seen yet is fantastic, is no reason to be naive.
I want to belive SOW will be good. But I dont know before I have seen it. Will it be complete - No I dont think so. But in time - mabye - like IL2 1946. One can only hope
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:07 AM
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It will all depend on how SoW ios played online.For all we know it could be a system similar to RoF,through master servers.A seriously flawed system that would be...
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:08 PM
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Here's a screen of the Hyperlobby for people who may not realize the amount of online play that IL-2 gets. Probably very few. When Storm Of War comes out about two weeks later probably half to three quarters of the population of Hyperlobby will have purchased it and IL-2 1946 will become what IL-2 2001 has become, a classic sim that will be loads of fun for people with older systems. Thousands of Storm Of War converts have got to go some where to fly in the new "Spits VS 109s", "Warclouds" and other Dogfight arenas not to mention the online wars etc. and I don't think they can do it without the Hyperlobby.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:41 PM
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Oleg has already mentioned a global dedicated server set up, some time ago as I recall.

I think HL will be redundant, but we will just have to wait and see.
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Old 11-08-2010, 04:54 PM
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I think HL will be redundant, but we will just have to wait and see.
I hope so. I don't like it when other programms have to run in background and eat recources.
Anyway, the hyperlobby looks a bit too outdated compared to the high visual standard of SoW BoB.
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