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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 11-07-2010, 12:26 PM
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Steam is very useful thing, not only DRM, it is:
- global server list (filters, sorting by, and more more etc)
- auto-update (download and install lattest patch automaticly)
- social network (groups, friends and etc.);
- chat (easy chating from in-game, voice chat, messages like ICQ, MSN);
- achivements (military ranks, medals and awards, and etc.)
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:36 PM
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Steam is very useful thing, not only DRM, it is:
- global server list (filters, sorting by, and more more etc)
- auto-update (download and install lattest patch automaticly)
- social network (groups, friends and etc.);
- chat (easy chating from in-game, voice chat, messages like ICQ, MSN);
- achivements (military ranks, medals and awards, and etc.)
Steam as a sort of DRM is not really bad, I use it a lot, but sometimes the servers from steam are down or there are malfunctions which causes all servers to crash in ETW/NTW, it does not happen frequently but at least 2 times a month, a bit annoying.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:38 PM
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Steam is very useful thing, not only DRM, it is:
- global server list (filters, sorting by, and more more etc)
- auto-update (download and install lattest patch automaticly)
- social network (groups, friends and etc.);
- chat (easy chating from in-game, voice chat, messages like ICQ, MSN);
- achivements (military ranks, medals and awards, and etc.)
Albeit the lats 5 points are only to make the first one more tasty

UBI please hear me! If need be any DRM then PLEASE Steam!
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:48 PM
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I agree even though no specs have been published. I'm expecting the 6970 to at least match the 5870 for performance and add new graphics capabilities like Tesselation (if we need that).

I've asked both XFX and Scan if they know when and what sort of price bracket, hoping for an answer in the next few days (which will probably be "we don't know yet"). Scan have just offered me a good 'Black Ops' deal with the 5870, pretty much what I posted earlier. If the 6970 is several months away (actually to market) I'll go with the 5870.

My fingers are itching now

speculum jockey,

I've always been a Nvidia man (2 x 7800GTs atm) but ATI seem to have a big edge just now and I, too, don't believe ATI would allow themselves to be left behind on game compatibility.
I'm enjoying the smoothness of my HIS 5870 (CoD version), which comes lightly overclocked @875 MHz (GPU) and 1225MHz Memory. I'm pretty certain that it, plus a quad-core cpu, and some decent memory 4Gb+, will be able to run SoW at a decent setting.
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:12 PM
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Unfortunately ATI seems to be rather uninterested what Maddox Games does. IIRC Oleg once complained that they never answered his calls for technical support so that MG had to fiddle with ATI problems on their own. Nvidia was a lot more responsive, hence the traditional edge their cards have in Il-2. I don't know if that's changed ...
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:21 PM
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Unfortunately ATI seems to be rather uninterested what Maddox Games does. IIRC Oleg once complained that they never answered his calls for technical support so that MG had to fiddle with ATI problems on their own. Nvidia was a lot more responsive, hence the traditional edge their cards have in Il-2. I don't know if that's changed ...
not much. Oleg mentioned that the build he was demonstrating was an Nvidia build.
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Old 11-07-2010, 07:07 PM
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ATI's traditional lack of good driver support continues apace.

Good hardware left wanting.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:13 PM
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ATI's traditional lack of good driver support continues apace.

Good hardware left wanting.
I really can't follow you here, the actual AMD - Drivers, 10.10 as i recall, are working flawless with all my games.
Are there problems with SoW:BoB, was it even tried with a amd-card?
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:22 AM
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i run ati 5870 900 and 1225 oc. and 6 core amd oc to 3.9 and run il2 with no problems at all, and all my games run flawless. (arma2 to codmw2)
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:40 AM
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I really can't follow you here, the actual AMD - Drivers, 10.10 as i recall, are working flawless with all my games.
Are there problems with SoW:BoB, was it even tried with a amd-card?
ElAurens is probably thinking along these lines: http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...&postcount=123

I had problems with anything newer than 8.9 in IL-2 (until the 4870 died), then further issues popped up in the early 10s, then they fixed it in 10.5 (or 3?), then on their next release I saw a bunch of posts about the same issues returning (!), and now you're saying it's good in 10.10. I see too many posts that report the exact same issues, to believe the problems are due to anything other than the ATI drivers.

And then there's the better nvidia support for linux (which matters to me).
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