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08-03-2009, 05:30 AM
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There is a great sim right now with realistic loadouts, BOB II WOV 2.09v
The actual British gun loadouts during the BOB were .303s. It is an excellent sim because it has the best AI performance of any WW2 simulation, quantum leaps above anything else available at this time. When you fly the sim you realize just what a tough competitor the British were up against. It is a miraculous effort those RAF pilots did. If Oleg provides only actual loadouts, it will take some very fast work to keep IL2 users interested by follow up releases/patches. We are accustomed to much more firepower and powerful aircraft. You talk about seeing the whites of their eyes, that's what it takes to get kills with .303s. I got pretty darn good flying the BOB II WOV, and it only came from practically running over the German aircraft to get kills. I can't count the times I emptied my guns and the enemy was still flying, and all the time I was getting hits on him. |
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#153
08-03-2009, 04:26 PM
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Yes BOB WOV is a very good sim, but the main reason I found it more difficult to get the kill shot wss the joystick settings. In IL-2 I could adjust the joystick making the aircraft a far more stable gun platform. I'm having the same problem in ROF, the aircraft are far too twitchy with the joystick input. I know the hurricane was supposed to be a very stable gun platform but I'm not sure about WW1 aircraft.
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#154
08-04-2009, 06:24 PM
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i hope STORM OF WAR will be somthing like this.
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#155
08-05-2009, 12:34 PM
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I think using RoF as an indicator for next-gen weapons physics and damage modeling is an interesting idea. You're flying aircraft that are made of canvas and trying to kill them with a pair of .30's at best and in some cases less. 200m is a long way. The aircraft aren't very good gun platforms in a best case scenario and it could serve as a great warmup for the ballistic characteristics of .30 caliber ammunition. Gunnery in RoF is easily the toughest part for an IL2 veteran to wrap their head around. You don't get many visual indicators (i.e. little paint chips flying off all over the place), and there's no scrolling chat log to let you know when you've mortally wounded the opponent or parts of his aircraft. No IL2-bashing here. It's the best combat flight sim I've ever flown...period, but fly aircraft that only have .30's or (.303's), take limited ammo loadouts and see how many He111's you can take down...without dying. I remember many years ago, people would load up a late model 109 with Mk108 gunpods and have competitions to see who could bring down the most B-17's in one sortie. Try it with a Hurri MkI... :\ |
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#156
08-05-2009, 02:31 PM
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Well, to shoot down a good number He-111 it's almost a mission impossible with the mark I Hurricane, but when it comes to shoot down Stukas, there's no plane better than the Hurricane.
You only have to close up, aim at the middle section (with the plane leveled) and open fire. Quickly one (or both) wing fuel tanks will be set on fire, and or the crew will jump or the tanks will explode. I honestly prefer doing this with the Hurri than some cannon-armed Spitfire. As I don't have any mods I don't know how this work on the Mark I. I was wondering, how will planes behave under .303 fire - will the Emils resist like Panzers, as in IL-2, or will fall like flies like in some movies and guncams? I strongly felt that the .303 shots were almost ineffective in IL-2, and that some movies put them stronger than a direct 88 shell. In some movies and guncam films, planes lost control and fall with only a single, but well aimed, burst. In IL-2 it takes many long and well aimed bursts to bring some fighter down. And if we are talking about bombers, you might empty your guns without even setting it on fire... |
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#157
08-05-2009, 02:52 PM
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I think rifle caliber rounds would in reality be ineffective for doing any serious damage, much like it is in IL2. In lower calibers there's too much depending on the type of round being fired, because the mass of the projectile is too low to have any real effect by virtue of impact alone.
If all the .303s had was regular rounds then i doubt they would do much damage. If on the other hand they had a mix of incendiary and armor-piercing rounds, it would be like a scaled down version of .50s. A high volume of fire with the correct ammo mix would mean that you stood a good chance of punching holes in some important parts of the target with your AP rounds, then your incendiaries would be able to set things alight. I don't know what they really used, but i've read a similar discussion about the Hellenic air force intercepting Italian bombers during 1940. Greece had some Pzl.24s, some were also armed with 20mm cannons, but they couldn't do enough damage to consistently bring down an Italian bomber without emptying the entire magazine. The reason was that most of the ammunition used was regular ball type rounds, incendiaries and APs were in very short supply or totally inexistent. In one such case a Pzl.24 pilot emptied his guns on the enemy bomber, failed to down him and was so infuriated that he closed within ramming distance. He got the bomber's tail with his prop, they both crash landed and he proceeded to draw his sidearm and take the Italian crew prisoner. Talk about being p*ssed off that your rounds are not up to the job 
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08-06-2009, 01:01 AM
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08-06-2009, 07:37 AM
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If viewed in account of the effect the spits in"Pearl Harbor" had at least mk108
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#160
08-06-2009, 11:55 AM
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After you guys mentioned it, I searched at youtube just to remember the scenes (watched the movie a long, long time ago).
Noticed two things: the Spits were armed with 20mm cannons, so probably IIb or Vb. The other thing... How the hell was that American flying with an Eagle Squadron badge on the plane and using 303 Squadron's lettering? I'm sorry, but he didn't looked very Polish to me  And, by the way, the speech seen at those scenes were the worst radio chatter I've ever heard in my whole life... Last edited by Lucas_From_Hell; 08-06-2009 at 12:03 PM. |
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