4.13 development update discussion and feedback

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by iMattheush

Please make at least Bf 110C-1 (for 1939-40 scenarios), it has worse crew armor, older, less effective MG FFs instead of MG FF/M and older radio (FuG III vs FuG 10). It will be very great addition. I can only dreaming about Bf 110B-1/2/3, but this is harder to make than C-1 Cheers!

The Bf-110 B series was only produced in limited numbers and never saw combat.

But, +1 for the C-1 model, since it was the definitive Bf-110 during the Polish campaign and many continued in service during the Norwegian campaign and the Battle of France. During those campaigns, where the Germans had more or less complete air superiority, the Bf-110 did a great job as an attack aircraft.

I don't think that there were any changes to the pilot's cockpit as compared to the C-4, although radio and gun would need to be changed for the observer. FM changes would be downrated engines. DM changes would be downrated guns and no armor for the pilot.

With very minor changes (change of guns and radio) the C-1 model could be converted to the C-3. Presumably the C-3 observer's cockpit was identical to that of the C-4.

[Aeronautico]

Thank you Daidalos for keeping alive this great sim.

[iMattheush]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

The Bf-110 B series (...) never saw combat

Of course it saw combat, mostly (or only) in Poland and Norway, e.g. reports said, that during '39 Polish Defensive War, P.11c pilots destroyed 5 Bf 110C and 2 Bf 110B, and severely damaged 4 Bf 110C and 1 Bf 110B, there are some reports and photos about crashed Bf 110B in Norway Campaign as well
It's interesting that in Polish Campaign, there are first and last usage of 30-50 Ju 86 (possibly E version) bombers in WWII as well!

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[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by iMattheush

Of course it saw combat, mostly (or only) in Poland and Norway, e.g. reports said, that during '39 Polish Defensive War, P.11c pilots destroyed 5 Bf 110C and 2 Bf 110B, and severely damaged 4 Bf 110C and 1 Bf 110B, there are some reports and photos about crashed Bf 110B in Norway Campaign as well

I stand corrected. My sources indicated that the B series was withdrawn from first-line service and just used for training prior to September 1939.

But, if advanced training units were deployed to Poland, or if Bf-110B were deployed to bring first-line units up to full strength during the Poland and Norway campaigns, then I could believe the B series saw combat, albeit in limited numbers.

Even so, it's impossible to include every model of every plane in the game. The selection of Bf-110 that TD has provided us does a very good job of covering the day fighter and attack versions from late 1940 to 1945. The only major variant that's missing is one of the very earliest C models.

Given that we've got maps of Norway and will be getting a map of 1940 France, the C-1 variant seems the most logical if TD wanted to give us one more early war variant. (But, if TD is still working on more Bf-110 variants, I'd want the F4/U-1 and G4/R-8 versions much more.)

[iMattheush]

https://books.google.pl/books?id=wZl...20110B&f=false

I./ZG 1, I.(Z)/LG 1 and I./ZG 76 each used in Poland one Staffel equipped with the Bf 110 B version. This fact is documented.

I agree with you, that C-1 is more necessary for early war campaigns than B-1, but B-1 saw combat as well

[stugumby]

So whats the info on the 110D? Does the huge fuel tank pod prevent the use of the 2 20mm cannons. I see no holes for the brass and links to fall out,if falling into pod there must be some kind of collection tray/box.

[Torsteven]

Awesome work ! Thank you Team Daidalos !

PS: New UI for 4.13.3 ?

[Sita]

Originally Posted by Torsteven

PS: New UI for 4.13.3 ?

yep ... just small changes for more comfortable read some long name loadouts ...

[Verdun1916]

Originally Posted by stugumby

So whats the info on the 110D? Does the huge fuel tank pod prevent the use of the 2 20mm cannons. I see no holes for the brass and links to fall out,if falling into pod there must be some kind of collection tray/box.

It seems that it was only the D-4 that had the MG FF removed. And that was to raplace them with a camera instead as this version was meant to be a long-range reconnaicance aircraft.

[Nil]

Excellent work on the U2! bravo!!! complete aircraft with several variations, new sounds... wow! I am very impressed! I waited this aircraft for 10 years! thank you very much Daidalos Team! Outstanding!!