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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-24-2012, 02:51 PM
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I was set on fire twice so far when my engine got shredded and I saw orange flames left and right of my cockpit.
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Old 10-24-2012, 03:03 PM
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never had that either, usually for me it´s one of 3 scenarios:

1. wing ripped to shreds -> B/O
2. controls gone -> B/O (i´m not thinking of any particular 6./JG26 pilot, now do i david )
3. PKed -> RIP
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The devs need to continue to tweak the FM balance until there is equal amount of whining from both sides.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:47 PM
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never had that either, usually for me it´s one of 3 scenarios:

1. wing ripped to shreds -> B/O
2. controls gone -> B/O (i´m not thinking of any particular 6./JG26 pilot, now do i david )
3. PKed -> RIP
You may have forgotten that in these days the following occurs very often:

4. Water/Oil Radiator is perforated/damaged leaking and you have to B/O
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:05 PM
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you are right, forgot that one
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:12 PM
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well urizen, meanwhile i practised to make pilot kills, and im quite successfull doing so...so you might soon notice a difference....
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:24 PM
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Fellas neither side can prove how abundant these rounds were and I'm guessing the devs couldn't either so they are modeled...get over it
I'm calling Bullsh*t on this.

I have already provided proof these rounds were 1-2% of the total LMG rounds manufactured, in addition, there was a known shortage of Wolfram the raw material used to manufacture Tungsten Acid, which was such the whole manufacture of the material was discontinued in 1942.

In addition, the Wehrmacht used the rounds as well, they were not made for the Luftwaffe exclusively, and the Wehrmacht had huge requirements, there were over 750,000 MG34 and MG42's produced for them, compared to 24,000 MG17's for the Luftwaffe.

The game shows the historical belt loadouts for both sides, as 'Default', and the SmK (H) is not even listed as part of the historical belt loadouts for 109E's.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:30 PM
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we´ll see about that

€: meant as response to david Buzz! u just snuck in there mate
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:44 PM
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Just a quick distraction from the forum furballing

Got two pilot kills in two hours yesterday, first time I've had two PK's since the old IL2
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:03 PM
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Salute Notafinger

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Very well said. To go further this is actually a reaction by blue flyers to what red was doing. For a very long time 99% of red was flying Spits exclusively, nobody was using Hurricanes.
The reason no one flew the Hurricane was because it was 534 lbs overweight, stalled like a pregnant whale, and couldn't outturn the 109's unlike the historical aircraft. Even now most people prefer the Spitfire because of its better speed.

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Since Spit wings absorb 20mm shells like a sponge some blue pilots, including myself, changed their tactics to something that would be more effective against Spitfires. If you can't kill the machine you had to kill the pilot. Considering how vulnerable the 109 is to cooling system, engine, fuel tank, and even pilot damage much of what is being said in this thread is just sour grapes.
If you have a problem with the Spit DM, then I would suggest you provide proof and make it known.

This argument has no relevance to the issue of the use of these Tungsten rounds and whether or not that is accurate.
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Old 10-24-2012, 06:03 PM
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I'm calling Bullsh*t on this.

I have already provided proof these rounds were 1-2% of the total LMG rounds manufactured, in addition, there was a known shortage of Wolfram the raw material used to manufacture Tungsten Acid, which was such the whole manufacture of the material was discontinued in 1942.

In addition, the Wehrmacht used the rounds as well, they were not made for the Luftwaffe exclusively, and the Wehrmacht had huge requirements, there were over 750,000 MG34 and MG42's produced for them, compared to 24,000 MG17's for the Luftwaffe.

The game shows the historical belt loadouts for both sides, as 'Default', and the SmK (H) is not even listed as part of the historical belt loadouts for 109E's.
Which means what? That doesnt proove F** All!
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