Friday 2010-07-23 Dev. update and Discussions

[FG28_Kodiak]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

You seem to have missed the point. Each week the same group of people throw around much criticism. ability to judge a WIP up-date, and insure us that they know better than the team. They are nothing but hackers, who complain a lot, and who say..Look here, look at my work, isn't it wonderful. That is like someone taking a brush to a fine painting, and saying..There I fixed it, now lets put my name on it......I agree with A-B, and you try to have a nice weekend as well.

+1

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Aed

So.. U tryi to say that modders are just huckers? Huh..

No, calling them hackers is too much honor for them. Think on letter "L".

Originally Posted by Aed

Modders gives a new life to IL 2... and expanded lot of functions.. For Example MDS..

Not very good example, actually. For many reasons.

Originally Posted by Aed

MG asked money and refused to make moving ground units online.

What a bullsht.

Originally Posted by Aed

Besides modders has specialisations.. as planes, function, FX.. and other.. And they know their line of activity some time better and wider than authors team..

LOL!!! and then - doublefacepalm.

Originally Posted by Aed

People want's to get a best product.. and they helps as they can..

Yeah, but then there is a good saying: don't start something, if you don't know how to do it.

[T}{OR]

I agree with SlipBall 100%.


MODS discussion is prohibited on these forums.

[SlipBall]

own..
People want's to get a best product.. and they helps as they can..[/QUOTE]




My friend, I can not see how you could condone such a statement as the following:

But maybe some of you know what we have done for
il2 effects, i know everything about il2 effects, and i'm
only talking about smokes and fires in those photos, and
i don't like it, those smokes and fires looks wrong, actually
it looks exactly as the system today present in il2, if anybody
already use our plutonium edition, knows what old il2 engine can
do and, will see that our smokes are more realistic, textures in those
are very low quality, and the emit freq isn't right

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by Feuerfalke

Interesting. So you say that the valuation, "low profit non-core department", has nothing to do with it's marketing value?

i am saying that to microsoft its flightsim department was mere peanuts in its bigger picture, as can be illustrated for ex by its 2007 annual revenue surpassing $50 Billion

but like all companies riding an economic wave that ebbs and flows, when suddenly the bottom falls out of the world economy it makes cuts where it can, for microsoft those cuts would have been easiest and quickest in its non-core business area's. whatever tabloid speculators might say, once the economic system is more stable and its future easier to predict, the less important (but previously profitable) products for niche markets will reappear no doubt

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by A.Fokker

Oleg, I have great respect for you , and great trust SOW will be above and beyond all expectations.

CHEERS!!! No hurry, and enjoy your vacation.

AF

Ditto!

Things seem to be coming along just fine. Look forward to the final release. In the meantime I hope Oleg continues to enjoy his vacation

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Originally Posted by T.}{.O.R.

No matter what good modders have done - they have killed on-line community. Period. The best part of IL2 died from the moment mods became widespread.

+++1
And some people said it would happen, people who saw CFS3 online die, and other games. Lots of squadrons switched to IL2 when modding made CFS3 a mess, at least online. Modding is the sworn enemy of any online game.
And yes they are hackers. The code wasn't given to them, period. I am aware that nice things have been done, yes...but they can be happy 1C didn't come after them with lawsuits, IMO.

[philip.ed]

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Oleg and Ilya; regarding tracer, will different types of tracer and ammo be able to be chosen by the player? Also, what sources are you using for the RAF tracer rounds? I ask as I had always seen and thought that they had smoke trails to the tracer which were left behind.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by zapatista

i am saying that to microsoft its flightsim department was mere peanuts in its bigger picture, as can be illustrated for ex by its 2007 annual revenue surpassing $50 Billion

but like all companies riding an economic wave that ebbs and flows, when suddenly the bottom falls out of the world economy it makes cuts where it can, for microsoft those cuts would have been easiest and quickest in its non-core business area's. whatever tabloid speculators might say, once the economic system is more stable and its future easier to predict, the less important (but previously profitable) products for niche markets will reappear no doubt

That's exactly what they said and still say about the Falcon-Team.

Fact is, though, it was closed because it could not make enough money to support the expensive team. And as with Falcon, it was closed to be reopened, whenever suitable. But as you know so much about business: If you close something now to reopen it later, you will lose a lot against companies that even with a small team continue to produce, grow, gather experience and of course make themselves and their products renown. And then we're back at where we started: At the very heart of competition.



@AED:
I'm glad you made a new account to post this. It's not only complete BS, your attitude and appearance is the very reason why the unspeakables are still officially referred to as hackers, not as modders.

[SlipBall]

Well forgive me if I came across as being rude to you. In my defense, I very much want the sim released this year. The complaints worry me that, the game will only be delayed to address them.