Fresh stuff from sukhoi.ru (Discussion) - Page 135

JG52Krupi · #**1341** 05-10-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kwiatek

Well not everyone are armchairs experts but you right most of them are

Other hand still i see that 1C had problems with accurate and historical performacne of these birds

Agreed but it's understandable there are so many variables it's not a job I would relish and as these forums have proven we are not exactly a bunch of relaxed, like minded and diplomatic people, in fact were mainly g!ts with a prickly g!tish outside and a hard sarcastic core...

klem · #**1342** 05-10-2012, 07:42 PM

Performance, FMs, BETA feedback are all covered in the Bug tracker which keeps a 'clean' view of the problems without them becoming an argumentative thread. That's where change requests should be posted with supporting data - or just vote on an existing one to get it further up the list.

The FMs are well known and where there is a Bug tracker for a FM the historical data is given. I'm sure the devs know all this data, I think they just got it wrong when they changed the FMs. I was a bit concerned when they named one person as their source for the data (no disrepect, I don't know him) but they do have the actual historical data available.

Like the messed up Spitfire throttles I expect them to get it right in the end and it may be that the FM programmer was only allowed a limited amount of time on it, pehaps he is mostly working on BoM now but they do need to adjust them in CoD asap. As Kwiatek said, he is not likely to be the person tasked with improving graphics performance so FM changes could be done as a task running in parallel with the major problems.

Flanker35M · #**1343** 05-10-2012, 09:09 PM

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Bugtracker is great and I have voted for both blue and red planes to be fixed. After all that is what most of us want

And have to defend Kwiatek as worked with him on some FM's. He has no agenda on either Spitfires or Bf109's. He wants ALL planes to be well modelled without ANY bias. And a cool chap too! Siema to Poland

SEE · #**1344** 05-10-2012, 09:12 PM

The Spit 'throttle' issue is as important as the GFX performance issues for me.

It should not be difficult or time consuming to fix. If this particular anomaly gets into the official update, I am worried it could be with us for a hell of a long time.

We had two speed prop and a decent throttle - along came the CSP and a decent throttle - we now have a CSP and two speed throttle -

Might as well map it to your hat switch and use the throttle slider for prop pitch......

Chivas · #**1345** 05-10-2012, 10:58 PM

I'm sure everyone has problems with the sim they would like to see as a priority, BUT the priority of the development first and foremost has to be performance issues. There is absolutely no point in fixing all the other issues until you have a sim that is stable for the majority of the players.

Stublerone · #**1346** 05-10-2012, 11:26 PM

@Kwiatek: I have read your post closely enough, but nevertheless, a key point is: Write it into a thread, where it should be located and not here!

Why is everybody writing everything in every thread? How should the fm programist collect these information out of threads, where it is totally wrong. You have to be aware, that you have to be lucky to get a direct answer from a dev. So you all should come to the conclusion, that they do not hear you anymore, because reading is not their main task in their jobs. They should fix or built something.

So, they can only look into the forum, have a short look over some posts to get the mood of the comunity and thats it. But some guys really think, that they are heard closely by the devs. It is simply not possible. So, if you want to reach the fm programist with your claim or help with some tracking, do it precisely in a dedicated thread and at bugtracker.

All other things are nonsense. (Sorry again for some kind of useless conversation sides in this thread...

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5./JG27.Farber · #**1347** 05-10-2012, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

I am sure that's exactly what the fm guy wants more ludicrous info from "unbiased"

armchair experts... Sigh

Frequent_Flyer · #**1348** 05-11-2012, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chivas

I'm sure everyone has problems with the sim they would like to see as a priority, BUT the priority of the development first and foremost has to be performance issues. There is absolutely no point in fixing all the other issues until you have a sim that is stable for the majority of the players.

Confidence in the dev. team pulling this off is at low ebb.

Chivas · #**1349** 05-11-2012, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer

Confidence in the dev. team pulling this off is at low ebb.

I know its possible, as I've never experienced a CTD or Launcher exe on my system, even from the first release, and have always had decent frame rates, so the code isn't intirely bad. The guys on the ATAG server seem to be suffering far less CTD's etc, so things are going in the right direction.

Frequent_Flyer · #**1350** 05-11-2012, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chivas

I know its possible, as I've never experienced a CTD or Launcher exe on my system, even from the first release, and have always had decent frame rates, so the code isn't intirely bad. The guys on the ATAG server seem to be suffering far less CTD's etc, so things are going in the right direction.

I unfortunately suffer from chronic CTD on line. However, things look very nice off line. Expectations were COD would be further along 1 year plus after release.