Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[FAE_Cazador]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

NG forced Ubi and 1C to sign a contract, which prohibits them from using images of vehicles to which NG owns copyright in the IL-2 game and it's add-ons.

Which means, 1C still can not use them in the game.

Plus, what AndyJWest said.

Shame on N-G !!

N-G would deserve that 1C had undermodeled FM/DM of all NG planes in this Sim so no virtual pilots would fly them, as word of being a piece of crap or flying bricks would spread across the SIM community.

May be this could help NG to change their mind and let Wildcats and Hellcats to play their historical relevant role in our virtual air wars, once this bloody agreement had been erased and FM and DM had been restored to the original one.

But as someone said, this is an old history. Let the sleeping "cats" to sleep

[bf-110]

Originally Posted by csThor

Aircraft as Wildcat and Hellcat were what Ubi and Oleg had to pay for ... Any other NG-related item (such as the battleships) means NG will hold out its hand and wait for Oleg to shove some cash their way.

They produced ships too???

Originally Posted by FAE_Cazador

Shame on N-G !!

N-G would deserve that 1C had undermodeled FM/DM of all NG planes in this Sim so no virtual pilots would fly them, as word of being a piece of crap or flying bricks would spread across the SIM community.

May be this could help NG to change their mind and let Wildcats and Hellcats to play their historical relevant role in our virtual air wars, once this bloody agreement had been erased and FM and DM had been restored to the original one.

But as someone said, this is an old history. Let the sleeping "cats" to sleep

Nah,I like the F4F.Both to fly and to shoot down.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by bf-110

Gonna see the Hs-129.Can it be used for heavy fighter role?

Not a chance.

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by FAE_Cazador

Shame on N-G !!

N-G would deserve that 1C had undermodeled FM/DM of all NG planes in this Sim so no virtual pilots would fly them, as word of being a piece of crap or flying bricks would spread across the SIM community.

May be this could help NG to change their mind and let Wildcats and Hellcats to play their historical relevant role in our virtual air wars, once this bloody agreement had been erased and FM and DM had been restored to the original one.

But as someone said, this is an old history. Let the sleeping "cats" to sleep

Northrop Grumman is a company that has been fined at various times for:
- faking cruise missile test results to gain sales
- illegally selling proscribed high tech nav equipment to small Asian states as well as Angola, China and Ukraine and Yeman
- fabricated test results for electronic parts used in navigation systems for military planes, helicopters and submarines,
- currently being sued for knowingly selling faulty aircraft tot eh USN in the 1990's
- fined for overcharging for products purchased by the US Space program in the 1990's
- amusingly was fined for providing portions of the computer source code of Air Force One to a company in Russia in 1998
- has on numerous occasions been fined for blackmail/bribery of political figures and foreign nationals in an effort to secure sales

Northrop Grumman REALLY REALLY do not care if the upset a few software companies and computer gamers.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Northrop Grumman REALLY REALLY do not care if the upset a few software companies and computer gamers.

Actually, any corporation of such size wouldn't care about that. And there really is no reason to deliberately make performance of their planes different from RL because of their behavior.

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Not a chance.

I don't know. I remember I was on my third flight with the Hs-129 (using mods). I was attacked by three Yak-1s and I shot them all down. The Hs-129 can't make a fully 360 degree turn without losing its airspeed (drag+underpowered).

The upshot of this is that it loses so much speed in a 90 degree turn that it ends up behind/beside its attacker and a quick burst of Mg-151 can easily be issued. So it can be used in a "mouse trap" type of manoeuvre/fight.

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Northrop Grumman REALLY REALLY do not care if the upset a few software companies and computer gamers.

True enough.

However, they need sales to government. Governments which are elected. Which means that contracts can become political.

I don't know why you guys don't mobilise your veterans associations. These aircraft were paid for with tax money and the history they participated in was paid for in the blood of citizens.

A distant descendent of a company is allowed to prevent depictions of history where U.S. soldiers died? I find the idea offensive in the extreme.

Unfortunately, I am a Canadian and I have no right to tell you Yanks what to do. But I wouldn't put up with it for a minute, and the Vet lobby can produce bad PR for a company with military contracts.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Not a chance.

It can shoot quite violently at anything, that comes in front of it. So why not?

Of course its not a nimble or fast plane and will have a hard time against almost every opponent. Even most bombers can fly away from it.
On the other side its slowness and stable flightbehaviour is perfect for poundering ground units - to this will be its main role (as it was).

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by DanLewis

Are we getting the Italian or Hungarian versions of the RE2000? As I remember it, the Italians weren't fond of it so it mainly went to Hungary and Sweden - with Hungary changing out the engine and armament. It's the latter I'm interested in - an RE2000 without the Breda popguns.

For now it will be only the Series I Falco, displaying the export version (as it served in Hungary, Sweden and also Italy in small numbers).
There is an option for the hungarian 'Heija' with different engine/guns and maybe the 'hunchback'ed G.A. (series III - long range). Nothing to be promised now, but will be thought over and decided later.

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by Mysticpuma

Okay TD, stepping away from N-G issues, here's a question I hope you may me able to answer.

Is there an easy way to add an option in FMB, that allows users to add custom skins to static aircraft? I say that as I mean without cheating?

To be able to put aircraft on a base and then just 'skin' them as you do with flyable and AI aircraft would be a huge advantage. Is this possible for 4.11 if not already considered for 4.10?

Secondly, is there a list yet (I'm sure there is) of additions that are expected to be in 4.10? I do try and keep up with the updates, but sometimes I miss some.

Cheers, MP

JUst in-case this was a thread about patch 4.10?

[Ala13_Kokakolo]

Dear TEam Daidalos.

As I'm starting my holydays today and because I will be without conection or computer for a month I humbly request NOT TO RELEASE 4.10 at least until september.

THanks (I'm sure you will grant my wish)