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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-09-2012, 09:45 AM
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Need to add IvanK to this especially, plus Artist and Ataros for their Bugtracker work, and last but not least Kwaitek.

~S~ Gentlemen for researching the facts, bringing them to the table and explaining what was necessary.
I'm glad that this 100 octane tale has found an ear on the dev's side. And now let's see the practical results ... I highly doubt that the story will end here.
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:57 AM
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Also really pleased to see more and more progress each time i visit, loving the screens and stoked about the reds getting there 9 lbs of meaty goodness. That should surprise us (The Blues) a few times in combat.
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Old 06-09-2012, 11:03 AM
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This posses the questions, were there any modifications to the merlin XII engine that allowed it to work at the higher boost for the extended periods in 1941?

Or was it a decision based on accepting reduced engine life to keep the aging MKII competitive in air combat?

Or were the 1940 limits too conservative so they were increased?

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Old 06-09-2012, 11:47 AM
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Thanks Blackdog

I agree with u 100% of your List ..and many more from German Community.
...again thanks for the Bomber BUG post !
i hope the read the Bugtracker and your post.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:45 PM
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P.S. Curious, isn't it, that there's not a single hint or tests for +12 Spitfire IIs isn't it.
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But if we are going down the road of fantasy boosts that are much higher than the limits listed in the engine/aircraft manuals, I want my 1.7 ata 109E, too. Even though if the manuals say something completely different. Hell if official limits are to be ignored on Spitfires, we might as well ignore them on Messerschmitts as well, and come up with whatever fantasy we may like.
LMAO......what are you worried about? the 109 now has a 'magic' rudder.
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Old 06-09-2012, 12:54 PM
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S!

Even I like to have accuracy as well done as possible this is becoming a joke. The public test is not even out and the megalomaniac threads of nitpick and twist of words accompanied by loud mouthing sidekicks are already about to start Why not test FIRST and then check the facts against values obtained? But no..*sigh*
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:12 PM
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This posses the questions, were there any modifications to the merlin XII engine that allowed it to work at the higher boost for the extended periods in 1941?

Or was it a decision based on accepting reduced engine life to keep the aging MKII competitive in air combat?

Or were the 1940 limits too conservative so they were increased?
The Merlin in the 1a had to be modified to accept 100 octane, the Merlin variant in the IIa was already adapted for 100 octane. The 100 octane 1a had similar performance to the IIa, as despite the fact that the IIa had a more powerful Merlin it also had extra weight due to more armoured plating around the pilots seat etc. So the IIa's advantages were, the ability to run at higher boost levels for longer, better protection for the pilot and better high altitude performance.
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Old 06-09-2012, 01:24 PM
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The Merlin in the 1a had to be modified to accept 100 octane, the Merlin variant in the IIa was already adapted for 100 octane. The 100 octane 1a had similar performance to the IIa, as despite the fact that the IIa had a more powerful Merlin it also had extra weight due to more armoured plating around the pilots seat etc. So the IIa's advantages were, the ability to run at higher boost levels for longer, better protection for the pilot and better high altitude performance.
Well in this sim, as in il2 1946, high alt performance is way off for all planes anyway and since engine wear and tear is not modeled, the only advantage left is better pilot protection... maybe one day when Engine wear and tear will actually play an effect might these things be intresting!

It does indeed look however like the developers are actually looking at the Il2 bug report site.. so who knows, maybe this might come in the future
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Old 06-09-2012, 02:09 PM
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I can't wait to try out that 100 oct Spit

It is just nice to know that if you present the data to 1C that they are able to make the change to make not only the planes more accurate, but history itself! S! 1C
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P2!!!! looks great!! How many brave men flew and died in such ?

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