New planes requests (from other threads/please pin it)

[iMattheush]

What do you think about jets like Gloster Meteor or even Republic XP-84 prototype? Is it possible to add some 1946-era planes? Meteor is even from '44 (f.3) or '45 (f.4)... Meteor can be used in intercepting v-1/ar-234 missions

[gaunt1]

No way, especially prototypes. Maybe after planes like Typhoon, Spit XIV, Tu-2, Ju-88C6, Me-410, or Ki-44 are added. These are far more important.

[Marabekm]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

Rivaled only by Bulgaria and Yugoslavia, which aren't even in the game!

Yugoslavia is kind of in game. Not as a selectable country, but we do have some of the aircraft.
You have to substitute the BF-109E4 for the 109E3, (And download Yugoslav skins somewhere for it.
Also the IK-3 was added in 4.12 something. (It has the Yugoslav skin already)
And the Sm-79 also saw service with the Yugoslav air force( but this could have been the 2 engine version like Romania used, I am not sure.)

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Sita

we don't have good reffs for more famous plane like Su2 and others ...

Isn't there a surviving Su-2 at the Museum of the Great Patriotic War, or, is it a replica?

If it's real, that would make it easier to get pictures of the cockpit and turret interior.

Your point about not having good reference materials is extremely important, and something most players forget.

It's not enough to just have a simple 3-view drawing, an artist's profile of the camouflage scheme, general data on dimensions, armament, and flight performance, and a few anecdotal pilot's reports.

Ideally, you want factory blueprints, pilot and mechanics manuals, plenty of flight testing reports with performance graphs, and access to a surviving example of the aircraft in factory-fresh condition.

It's even better if the flight test reports cover testing of the first production machines and tests of captured aircraft (likely to be in poorer shape and more typical of production aircraft in the field), not just tests of the prototype.

For rare aircraft - particularly early war aircraft - some or all of this data is missing. There are no surviving aircraft because they all got destroyed or were recycled to make new aircraft. Manuals and test reports got lost or were destroyed during the war or soon after.

The manufacturer of the aircraft has probably been out of business for 70 years, so nobody remembers how the plane was made, and production records and blueprints were lost long ago.

Aircrew who flew the obscure type were never very common to begin with, and many died during the war. In any case, they're all going to be dead now, and because they flew an obscure aircraft type, it's very likely that nobody thought to interview them about that plane while they were alive.

All that means that someone trying to model an obscure plane has to fill in the gaps himself and make some guesses about actual flight performance. It helps if you have an advanced degree in aeronautical engineering.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by gaunt1

No way, especially prototypes. Maybe after planes like Typhoon, Spit XIV, Tu-2, Ju-88C6, Me-410, or Ki-44 are added. These are far more important.

I think that "Luftwaffe 1946" is lowest priority, but the Gloster Meteor Mk. I was operational during WW2 and did useful work shooting down V-1s.

I'd still put it further back in the queue compared to many other planes, however.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Marabekm

Yugoslavia is kind of in game. Not as a selectable country, but we do have some of the aircraft.

The IK-3 is one of my favorite "rare birds" in the game.

Bf-109E-3 could easily be added to the game along with the E-1.

I can understand the decision to not include some of the "minor nations" in IL2, though. Mostly its because we don't have suitable maps and voice packs.
To some extent, it's because there doesn't appear to be that much of a fan base for IL2 in certain countries.

[RPS69]

Originally Posted by Pursuivant

I think that "Luftwaffe 1946" is lowest priority, but the Gloster Meteor Mk. I was operational during WW2 and did useful work shooting down V-1s.

I'd still put it further back in the queue compared to many other planes, however.

Argentinian's may like to have it as a 1946, because it saw a little action overe there on some political turmoils.

[iMattheush]

Meteor Mk.3 was used more extensively (v-1s AND combat flies over Germany in the last months of war) than Mk.1 (V-1), and look at the numbers. Since 8 may of 1945, there was only 20 Mk.1s and over 100 Mk.3s

[shelby]

d3a2 a6m2-22 ki43iii ki61tei and some g4m2 variants

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by shelby

d3a2 a6m2-22 ki43iii ki61tei and some g4m2 variants

Ki-46 Tei would be really useful I think. Most produced variant of this beautiful plane. It wouldnt be too hard to make, just the fuselage needs to be extended a little bit. This extension was already present on the Hei, so the model ingame is wrong.