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08-13-2011, 04:03 AM
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Cars kill more people than guns? How is that even an argument?
What are cars for, they are for transportation they are a necessity, their purpose is to propel you. What's a gun's primary purpose? To kill people! Really guys, if you use that argument you really need to back off and go rethink your logic. As for guns, they are just too easy to use, point and click..... knifing someone, or beating them to death requires a lot more intent. You'd also have trouble knifing a whole school if you were on a rampage. Saying all that though, I do believe that we should at least be allowed to carry non-lethal weapons. Here in New South Wales you can't own anything that can be used as a weapon, so I can't even get my wife some pepper spray or a stun gun. They are incredibly strict here, I had to throw away all my airsoft guns when I moved here. Oh and all my deactivated ammunition. You need a bloody license to own inert/deactivated ammunition! And here's the best part; to even own plastic airsoft bb's you'd need to have a license! It's nuts! Last edited by xnomad; 08-13-2011 at 04:07 AM. 
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#113
08-13-2011, 05:18 AM
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Usually quoted from the published source as;
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Obviously very different, presumably because Franklin, at least, recognized the fatuousness of the abridged version.
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#114
08-13-2011, 05:56 AM
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Well there were the three men in Birmingham that were deliberately run down last week. In my own home town 46 year old woman was deliberately run down out side her home a week ago as well. The dirver jumped the kirb and then dragged her 50 yard down the road just because she yelled at him to stop doing burnouts in their street. You had that guy in the eastern state a year or so ago who killed his three young sons by driving them into a dam after he lost custody. In Western Australia it is widely recognised that men in rual areas suffering from depression (many family farmers are falling on hard times) are using thier cars to commit suicide by running into trees at high speed. If they used their guns their families wouldn't get insurance payouts. It just goes to show that if a person is determined enough they will use any means at their disposal to meet their ends. Last edited by Skoshi Tiger; 08-13-2011 at 05:59 AM.
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#115
08-13-2011, 06:46 AM
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I don't think there's much point in carrying on this conversation. It's obvious that the politically correct brainwash culture did its job here,and the truth is that the gun policy here is very hypocritical and ridiculous (nobody has still explained me why a K98 is less lethal than a Garand).
I have friends here who I took to the shooting range and who have learned to appreciate and understand that there's nothing to be afraid of when handling firearms,as mentioned by raggbutt,there's no place safer than a shooting range. I suppose that most of the people against guns never handled one,they just demonise them and deem their use as killing machines,but hey guess what,skeet shooting and target shooting are Olympic disciplines! Driving a car into someone,on the other hand, isn't.. Go figure  The car=gun equation needs to be seen in this perspective: in both cases they aren't bought to kill people,but potentially they could. Now whilst you can't ride a shotgun to work,your Toyota Prius (cos u r probably driving one of them) will take you almost anywhere,so why would you give it up?it's not like you're gonna go driving over people in it.. It's the same logic with guns: yes, 3 loonies killed people with their guns,but I am no looney,why should I give em up? The answer,either than because your fat bottom needs it,is that cars are a precious source of money for governments. Why not improving the public transport so that we can get rid of cars? Heck,we spent billions of dollars to develop a JSF,what if we invested that for the creation of a transport system that takes you from A to B at low cost? Road taxes,oil,insurance,maintenance.. Your car is convenient to them for you to have. Your guns,on the other hand,are dangerous.. I think it's the ignorance on the subject that is dramatically dangerous,they don't want us to think anymore,all we need to do is follow the flock towards the edge of the cliff and be happy that we're not the ones that become part of the collateral damage charts.. Last edited by Sternjaeger II; 08-13-2011 at 06:48 AM.
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#116
08-13-2011, 07:39 AM
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Soon after that her "baby" was getting scratched up in her purse. She wanted a .45 Commander like mine. So I bought her one. She carried that for a while but it was too heavy, so I gave her a .380 Government. As far as I know she still carries it. She wanted a rifle after that so I got her a beautiful AK-47 that she just loved. Even after we broke up she'd call and ask if she could come over and load some ammo so she could go shooting that weekend. I let her use my loading press whenever she wanted to. The point is that a scared girl had irrational fears of an inanimate object, cuz she believed what the press and the liberals said. She saw the light when I educated her. Women typically come around quickly and listen when you try to teach them something, especially if you know what you're talking about. That was true w/my ex and it was true w/every woman that enrolled in my CCW class. I find it funny that folks from other countries are scared of guns yet never have owned nor fired one, but the fairer sex isn't afraid to learn and to take their safety in their own hands. Then again, that's what makes America great.
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08-13-2011, 07:43 AM
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08-13-2011, 08:26 AM
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08-13-2011, 11:41 AM
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The point is whether or not "the people", in this case the British people, have the right to choose to live in a society where gun ownership is relatively restricted and discouraged. You do not have to agree with their choice or even their reasoning, but the disparaging references to ignorance, fear, political correctness etc are just as shallow as the sort of remarks about inbred rednecks obsessing over their hollow-points that you hear occasionally from your mirror images in the opposite camp.
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