V.14762 BETA Errors

[335th_GRAthos]

Disproportionate vibration intensity of the Bf109 engine compared to other planes

Flying Bf109, engine problem leads to serious vibration, making aiming and shooting nearly impossible
(whereas flying Spit Ia, engine problem is hardly noticed).

Testing some Bf109s at the REPKA server...


EDIT: Maybe the Spitfire Ia has the same kind of violent vibrations as well, I do not know, maybe I have not "cooked" a Spit engine until now, you can not do it by overheating the water system (prove me wrong ). The best case I had was "overcooking a Spit engine by flying too long at max throttle, oil temp exceeded the limit and got a "grosvenor failure" message but even then there were no serious vibrations either...

[Albtraum23]

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Load landscape...
Load bridges
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ca 40 min. online the sound begin stuttering(Fps drop down in this moment) ,and it stutter til end off the misson 10 min.
Forcefeedback is gone simultanously ,but it came back after 5 mins.

I7 920@3500 ,6gb1600Corsair@1333 ,275.33WHQL Gtx570@800-2000-1600 ,Gigabyte EX58-UD3R F11 ,Vista 64 bit ,1680x1050 all Settings High shadowsoff.aaoff.Fullscreenon.Vsyncon.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by fireflyerz

With installation of the new beta patch I now seem unable to set or have any wheel brakes in the controls section , the tiger moth ground handling is still very poor and although I love the new shiny effect it is not so good on tyers.

Ps , I would like to see the return of the bale out animation in one of these patches.

Jafa.

My wheel brakes work fine, both in Luftwaffe and RAF aircraft. Did you try any other aircraft since the patch or just the Moth and the Stuka?

The reason i'm asking is that

a) seeing your latest mod preview video i suppose you were mostly flying these two

b) if i'm not mistaken, the real Moth didn't even have wheel brakes at all and

c) the Stuka was bugged and they didn't work in the sim

In other words, a string of coincidences where after the patch i happened to only fly the aircraft that have no brakes would be easy to confuse everyone into thinking that the patch bugged the brakes, that's why i'm asking if you have tested other types as well

Originally Posted by Raggz

not sure if this is due to beta but the HE-111 P-2 Superchargers do not work in cockpit with mouse.

The He-111P has DB engines similar to the ones on the 109/110, these come with automatic supercharger control. The levers in the cockpit are probably there due to using the same interior 3d model as the He-111H variant.

In other words the behavior is correct, it's the supercharger controls that are redundant.

Originally Posted by 335th_GRAthos

Water cooling system of Spit 1a

I was flying at the REPKA #3 server.

Got shot at the radiator and saw the damage message. White steam trail out of the radiator.

Nevertheless, I did a couple of dogfights at full throttle, went easy on the throttle to cool down my oil temp (which had reached maximum), did a "touch and go" on the runway (it was then I realised that something must be wrong with the water cooling damage model) did one more dogfight, run out of ammo and landed.
Water temperature atall tmes, normal.

This makes me assume that the water cooling system damage is shown on the damage window, has however no effects to the cooling temperature (thus no engine overheating).

~S~


PS. Water cooling of Spit was always a bit of magic, since the IL2FB days...

I had damaged radiators when flying 109s/110s in the past and they don't immediately come to a stop either. In one case i managed to finish the dogfight and then go back to France, the engine with the damaged radiator did seize but it was after i had almost crossed the entire channel.

I think that first the coolant has to sufficiently reduce in quantity (through a leak in the damaged radiator) before we get any damage. If you were flying closer to your base then maybe there was still some water in that radiator and that's why you didn't overheat.

[fireflyerz]

No brakes.

[Bobb4]

Planes still move while idle.
Ground objects sink in terrain.
Ditched plane in water. It did not sink, it drop to about the same level vehicles on land sink to and then stopped.
No crater on ground when plane crashes. Have not checked whether bomb craters are missing (anyone know?)
Right hand 109 sliding window does not work?
Still have sound of wheels rolling along ground long after i have taken off and they are safely retracted.

[furbs]

i get the wheels rolling sound bug also.

[xnomad]

I just tried the Syndicate server which is patched to the current beta.
I can confirm that FFB drops out whenever I pulled the trigger in the bf109. As per this thread.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=24021

This hadn't happened to me in single player. FFB does drop out occasionally in single player but comes back. I sometimes get that the stick flexes when firing in single player mode but in multiplayer FFB just drops out. Pull some G's it comes back again, fire it and you lose it again.

[Plt Off JRB Meaker]

One small bug I have noticed is whilst loading one of my saved FMB missions a lot of the ground enviromental static objects were not showing up,sandbag lines,fire extinguishers,starters and more just gone.

They were definatley there the day before the Beta,the object label descriptions are still present on the airfield I fly from,it's the physical presence of the objects that are no longer sowing up.

Bit of a bugger,maybe they'll return when the update is made live on Steam tonight,who knows.

[LcSummers]

I have noticed many crashes when playing single player missions by switching to outside view. Many Launcher.exes.

Its faster than the original release but much more CTDs.

Originally Posted by Plt Off JRB Meaker

One small bug I have noticed is whilst loading one of my saved FMB missions a lot of the ground enviromental static objects were not showing up,sandbag lines,fire extinguishers,starters and more just gone.

They were definatley there the day before the Beta,the object label descriptions are still present on the airfield I fly from,it's the physical presence of the objects that are no longer sowing up.

Bit of a bugger,maybe they'll return when the update is made live on Steam tonight,who knows.

read a comment somewhere else that the objects are now below the ground. replacing the items should help. It may be improper to construe this as a bug actually. a PITA for sure but if the scenery got updated to eliminate bugs FMB retouches should be expected theoretically and alongside all the missions requiring updating if necessary