IL2 and Sound Modding

[carguy_]

LOL he really is an idiot!

[stalkervision]

Did you read what I wrote whatsoever?

[stalkervision]

amazing. you people are even to dumb to understand this whatsoever..!

[stalkervision]

You see terms in contracts are frequently written this way to fool the great unwashed such as yourselves into believing you have less rights then you do. Obviously they do it because it works...

read this...


" Some copyright owners use EULAs in an effort to circumvent limitations the applicable copyright law places on their copyrights (such as the limitations in sections 107-122 of the United States Copyright Act), or to expand the scope of control over the work into areas for which copyright protection is denied by law (such as attempting to charge for, regulate or prevent private performances of a work beyond a certain number of performances or beyond a certain period of time). Such EULAs are, in essence, efforts to gain control, by contract, over matters upon which copyright law precludes control.




You see you can include anything in a EULA can't you as in any contract btw.

doesn't make it any more binding on you that you signed it either...

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by carguy_

Okay.I wager he is a citizen in a common law system country.If he is so sure this aint gonna hold up in court(at least where he lives) then there must be a precedent stating so so other courts could use it adequately.Cause if that`s just some lawyer`s expertise then it means nothing as mine aswell be other four lawyers who say otherwise(as written in earlier post).

Maybe cite some of it(best it be from his own state if he can do it).

Cuz it`s not his personal "expertise" I wager?

What he's trying to point out is that the EULA says that by purchasing the software that your bound by the contract, but a contract is by default null and void if the terms of the contract are not presented up front, which it i not is the case of an EULA. Therefore the EULA will not stand up as it is inherently void.

And Stalker, I'm really not trying to flame you but you are not helping to soothe the paranoia, some of your reasoning and logic is actually feeding it and giving them more ammo.

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

What he's trying to point out is that the EULA says that by purchasing the software that your bound by the contract, but a contract is by default null and void if the terms of the contract are not presented up front, which it i not is the case of an EULA. Therefore the EULA will not stand up as it is inherently void.




And Stalker, I'm really not trying to flame you but you are not helping to soothe the paranoia, some of your reasoning and logic is actually feeding it and giving them more ammo.

read this again buddy..


" " Some copyright owners use EULAs in an effort to circumvent limitations the applicable copyright law places on their copyrights (such as the limitations in sections 107-122 of the United States Copyright Act), or to expand the scope of control over the work into areas for which copyright protection is denied by law (such as attempting to charge for, regulate or prevent private performances of a work beyond a certain number of performances or beyond a certain period of time). Such EULAs are, in essence, efforts to gain control, by contract, over matters upon which copyright law precludes control.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

You can write any "law" you like and have people sign it. This is very common with leases beween tenent and landloard btw. It is another thing about them being legal whatsoever and they frequently arent. Just because a lease has been signed and certain things in it agreed to by the signer doesn't makes it any more legal.

I'll give you another real good example. Next time you get a credit card offer look at the terms in tiny letters in the back of the form. It says that by agreeing to have the credit card you give up the right to declare bankruptcy and agree to pay all the credit card companies bills if you do. All of this is totally illegal but is still allowed to be included under the law. Just by signing that form doesn't make you libel either....

"Totally agree! lmao Stalker isn't that bright.:" read this passage
sniper.

I obviously know a lot more about the law then most of you trolls..

Originally Posted by stalkervision

You see terms in contracts are frequently written this way to fool the great unwashed such as yourselves into believing you have less rights then you do. Obviously they do it because it works...

read this...


" Some copyright owners use EULAs in an effort to circumvent limitations the applicable copyright law places on their copyrights (such as the limitations in sections 107-122 of the United States Copyright Act), or to expand the scope of control over the work into areas for which copyright protection is denied by law (such as attempting to charge for, regulate or prevent private performances of a work beyond a certain number of performances or beyond a certain period of time). Such EULAs are, in essence, efforts to gain control, by contract, over matters upon which copyright law precludes control.




You see you can include anything in a EULA can't you as in any contract btw.

doesn't make it any more binding on you that you signed it either...

Now thats more like it, stalker, cut the antics and make more posts like this.

EDIT: You posted the things I quoted while I was typing the previous post (I'm at work), then you responed to it while I was making this post, lol.

[stalkervision]

the stalker ain't so dumb and nutty as he might appear at first glance...

Eulas like any contract can say pretty much what they want..

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

the stalker ain't so dumb and nutty as he might appear at first glance...

This seems the case but be careful, remember, the fanatics are that way because of a skew in vision, they are very likely to attach to some of your less high brow statements and ignore/dismiss anything else you say. Then as is the want of zealots of this sort they will apply it to all of the people they view as "on your side". If one side of an argument is going nuts and make accusations and generally making an ass of themselves, the opposing side need only appear calm and reasoned to make clear who is in the right.

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

This seems the case but be careful, remember, the fanatics are that way because of a skew in vision, they are very likely to attach to some of your less high brow statements and ignore/dismiss anything else you say. Then as is the want of zealots of this sort they will apply it to all of the people they view as "on your side". If one side of an argument is going nuts and make accusations and generally making an ass of themselves, the opposing side need only appear calm and reasoned to make clear who is in the right.

Ya, I know and they frequently do..