Red Tails Trailer #3

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

To rate a movie purley by it's financial performance is missing the point.

No, it's the ENTIRE point. Movies made for rivet counters don't make lots of money. That's why very few are made.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Bewolf

What about Valkyrie, the Tom Cruise one, making almost $200.000 world wide?

Valkyrie was about the very few Germans who tried to end the war, not about those who fought.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

As for Red Tails, it looks like a message movie, but at the end of the day when those boys were stepping off the ship back in the USA they were greeted with a sign that said 'Whites to the Left, Blacks to the right' so I don't really see how it can be all 'hell yeah'.

His view that it's a "hell yeah USA" movie is idiotic. It's really an anti-1940s USA movie.

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

No, it's the ENTIRE point. Movies made for rivet counters don't make lots of money. That's why very few are made.

Like I said, if you're judging a movie purley based on what it took at the box office then you're making the exact same mistake as Hollywood is.

Who said anything about movies made for Rivet counters?
I'm talking..
Blade Runner, poor at the box office
Shawshank Redemption, bombed
Donnie Darko, 2 theatrical releases - took around a million (US).
The Big Lebowski, very average takings
Resevoir Dogs, 1.5 million(US)

Top 5 grossing movies of all time. (The best 5 movies ever made, if money is the ENTIRE point)
1. Avatar, jeez
2. Titanic, my heart won't go on..
3. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, people need to grow up.
4. Transformers Dark of the moon, obviously waaay better than Citizen Kane
5. Lord of the Rings Return of the king, it... never... ends..

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

Top 5 grossing movies of all time. (The best 5 movies ever made, if money is the ENTIRE point)

It is the ENTIRE point. It's the only way we have to determine if lots of people like the movie. Whether or not it's a "good" movie is just your opinion. I thought Blade Runner sucked.

[David Hayward]

Speaking of great movies...

Moonrise Kingdom

I'll let you figure it out.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Valkyrie was about the very few Germans who tried to end the war, not about those who fought.

lol, I see how it is, but enough of ego stroking you by replying to this stuff

[winny]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

It is the ENTIRE point. It's the only way we have to determine if lots of people like the movie. Whether or not it's a "good" movie is just your opinion. I thought Blade Runner sucked.

No it's the only way to determine how many people went to see it or how many people bought the marketing campaign, nobody knows how many liked it. I saw Avatar and Titanic at the cinema, hated them both, according to you I liked both these films because I paid to see them.

Why have the Academy Awards? We don't need opinion getting in the way of making billions of dollars. Just give all the Oscars to the highest grossing movie of the year, job done.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by winny

No it's the only way to determine how many people went to see it or how many people bought the marketing campaign, nobody knows how many liked it. I saw Avatar and Titanic at the cinema, hated them both, according to you I liked both these films because I paid to see them.

Why have the Academy Awards? We don't need opinion getting in the way of making billions of dollars. Just give all the Oscars to the highest grossing movie of the year, job done.

I never said that everyone who goes to a movie likes it, but it's certainly the best indication of how many people liked a movie. The Oscars are just the opinions of a well-connected group of people.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Most main stream stuff is utter s%^&.

"A fool and his money are soon parted..."

Its not about how much money a film made or how many people saw it. Its about what it ment to you and why you remember it. However even then filmakers have "artistic license" which is another word for b"^^$&!^...