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Old 12-13-2009, 05:01 PM
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Its good to know WHAT missile is chasing you. Infared or heat seeker. A different sounding alarm/warning will go off for each so you will know what is coming at you. If its a heat seeker.... its advisable to turn your after burners off, with them one your like a huge "IM HERE COME GET ME" target. With infared.... flares will deal with them. It all depends on the aircraft your flying to.....

the older planes will struggle, no matter how good you are at flying them. Its just the way it is to be honest. Where as the newer ones like the F22 just laugh in the face of any missile coming its way.

It takes time to figure out what works best for you. Rememer if your flying in a straight line you wont out run the missile. (unless you dropped 50,000ft). Its trial and error you'll soon get it.

For me personally.....

i always flew either the F14 and dealt with ground/air or the SU33 and dealt with just ground (one pass in the SU33 can wipe out an enemy tower)... i ALWAYS had height on my side, so any time a missile was on me i would firsty determine what kind them i would out run it by going into a deep dive and using chaff/flares. Dont use your chaff/flares to early either, its just a waste (even though you have an infinite amount) wait until the missile is right on your arse then give it what for


Theirs alot of veterans on here who can help no doubt, so if you get stuck then keep posting for help.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:28 PM
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cheers guy will anything and everything if it helps
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:43 PM
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my preferred tactic for missile evasion is to get it coming at you from around 4 o clock, gate and pull up at around 5-10 degrees, when the missile is ~1m out. cut power and do a 180 turning into the missile and dropping to a dive. Once you get the technique and timing down, as long as you have time to set up it always works, sometimes :S
Ditto. It gets "almost" easy when you can get the missile coming perpendicular to you. Wait until it's uncomfortably close then pop flares and yank the stick into the direction of the missile or vertical, just not away from it. You can roll out of them sometimes, but the roll is so tight that you still often get damaged even if not taken out. Then the next missile gets you since you're at 50% power. LOL
It's hard to get video of a dodge. I've got some in some of my videos, but it's usually just at the edge of the screen so you can't see it. Dodging in an A-10 will get your heart going though, that doesn't exactly bob and weave well.

When my friends and I were playing this a lot, you might run through all of your missiles and never hit anyone. It boiled down to staying OFF the radar guided missiles (so you don't light up everyone's radar as a target), using your eyes and positioning behind them to get a shot off with a sidewinder. Otherwise the missiles would get dodged too easily. The longer range the missile is, and the further away it's shot, the more likely it is to be dodged with ease.

Note: when firing a phoenix, fire ONLY one until it hits or misses. Keep the plane in your sights since you're guiding the missile in and you can only guide one at a time. Fire a second missile or switch off to another weapon and the lock is broken and the missile is gone. Others you can ripple fire. Some Russian planes have long range heatseekers, but they aren't very agile.

The SU-33 is a beast at bombing with those 1500kg bombs (3300 lbs). My go-to is the Strike Eagle, but it takes 2nd next to that thing in bomb capacity.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:50 PM
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The air to air missile thats exclusive to the tomcat has the greatest range for air to air targets!! its ridiculous. The maverick??? could be thinking of the wrong one though.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:55 PM
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The air to air missile thats exclusive to the tomcat has the greatest range for air to air targets!! its ridiculous. The maverick??? could be thinking of the wrong one though.
true, but from that range they are rediculously easy to dodge. plus the tomcat has to keep its lock for about a minute after shooting, if he loses it you dont even have to dodge. On one game there was a n00b who immedaitly launched all 4 mavericks, 1 at each of us, then switched to sparrows. Needless to say he died quickly with no kills lol
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:03 PM
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i find the F22 the "noob" of this game. I hate flying against it. Takes all the fun out of it. Good to see the better players refuse to use it though

in arena i will use the SU33 for ground pounding or the F15/F14 for air to air.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:21 PM
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Hey FOZ, earlier you mentioned that there were infrared and heat seeking missiles. Are they not the same? Did you mean radar guided and infrared?

Also, I hear ya about the F-22 haha. I love the plane but when it comes down to awesome, I prefer 4th gen veteran planes all the way. How would the Viper stand up in this game?
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:25 PM
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Damnit this thread is making me want to get a 360 just for this game
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:29 PM
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Hey FOZ, earlier you mentioned that there were infrared and heat seeking missiles. Are they not the same? Did you mean radar guided and infrared?

Also, I hear ya about the F-22 haha. I love the plane but when it comes down to awesome, I prefer 4th gen veteran planes all the way. How would the Viper stand up in this game?
Yeah you could be right haha. Been a while!!

The F22 is great to fly in single player, it gets the job done without problems. Takes fun out of playing online though. I love flying all the way to a target in the F14 tomcat, taking 10 mins toget their, drop my payload then make my way back to a friendly carrier and land on the deck to rearm and refuel. I love it.
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Old 12-13-2009, 08:34 PM
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Damnit this thread is making me want to get a 360 just for this game
Holy crap, I feel that.

I say we go get one right now and have a dogfight!

If this game (or something essentially like it) ever comes out for the PS3, it's mine.
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