ATAG Dedicated Server is up!

[56RAF_Dutch]

hi all,

The independant TS3 server is up again.
I don't know if we are going to use it tonight, but it is there.

teamspeak.ukatc.com
ip address: 77.251.29.224

grtz

56RAF_Dutch

[CWMV]

Well, hell of a night tonight!
Wingman and I logged on and found the players at 12 blue and 4 red, so we sadly decided to fly for the bad guys and jumped in Rotol Hurricanes.
Flew around, got lost (not used to looking at the English coast from the England side) and formed up over hawkineg(sp?).
From there it was a very interesting fight. Flak started going off and found ourselves chasing 2 109's with a large alt advantage and got bounced by two others, for a total of 4 109's. We ended up split up, me in the weeds over hawk. with 2 109's and my wing high overhead with the other two. We really expected to get done over rather quickly!

But we prevailed.
To my fellow 109 drivers, listen: DO NOT TURN WITH THE REDS!!! Straight lines are your friend! We managed to get these guys low and slow and then put enough pressure on them to start making mistakes. I had one fly straight into a hanger at hawk and another cartwheeled into the drink right off the coast trying to evade me by turning rather than putting on WEP and leaving me behind. Only 1 109 tonight put her on the deck and ran to france, and I simply couldn't catch him.

Later I was even able to catch a 109 that was doing this climb-dive-climb thing that just bled his energy off, made quick work of him.

All in all it ended up with something like 6 109's down to no losses.
COME ON BLUE! WE CAN DO BETTER!
lol!

[trumps]

I put in about half a dozen sorties in a spit 1a over the last couple of nights to get the feel for it before this mornings multi squad mission. I must say that i was very impressed with it's performance, although unable to climb or run with a co-E 109 I didn't have any real trouble with it, possibly due to most of the 109's I came across wasting their 'E' ended up with 10 kills, 8 of which were 109's. Over all I would say that the 109 only has an advantage if the pilot is very disciplined, and does not get drawn into the reds comfort zone. Good fun indeed, but still prefer my 110. Btw what sort of silly bugger spit pilot would get himself into a repeated head on duel with a 110? I met one today, LOL!

Craig

[klem]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Majority of players are "I need to shoot someone down at all costs!" players. Had a couple on comms last night discussing how they would ram their target when weapons had been expended.

Thats where the life-limited campaigns come in. Although there, it may be considered a worthwhile sacrifice.

Other than that, avoid the head-on and try not to let the rammers lay a glove on you
But collisions, as opposed to ramming, do happen

[reflected]

Dear ATAG guys,
I love your server, it's the best one out there, but it would be nice if you found a way to monitor unacceptable behavior on it.

Yesterday, I took an early Spit MkI. I saw a 110 diving away from another Spit, who had no chance to get him anymore, but I was in a good position so I dived on him and flamed the "Hun". The next moment the Spitfire fired a burst into me.

1) he had no chance to get him anymore
2) we have shared kills anyway

When I complained on the chat the reactions were rather childish. Then I witnessed as a Spitfire opened fire on a Hurricane.

Not to mention that every time I'm on the 6 of an enemy, my teammates don't care about hitting us both, just fire away.

One would expect a serious flight sim community to be a lot mroe mature than that, but this feels like kindergarten. Would there be any way to prevent such behaviours? Don't let it ruin your wonderful server.

In RoF for instance, we have a server and there's a mission log we scan. There, it's clearly visible who's a team killer and we ban him with a notice.

Thank you, and keep the server running!

[ATAG_Bliss]

Hi reflected,

Sadly there's no real way to do this atm. We have a mission log and regularly monitor chat etc, but without tracks of problems or problematic people it's impossible to see everything that goes on. I think many people are still stuck in the IL2'46's way of the last bullets = a kill. Which you very well know, isn't the case anymore (THANKFULLY!). We'll throw up some more messages about shoulder shooting / team killing, but I think once all the people recognize you only get credit for the damage or % of damage you cause to an enemy, stuff like this will hopefully weed itself out.

And we're here for the long haul

S!

[ReconNZ]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

One thing that I find that works, is get on TS and get to know the guys. People are less willing to steal your kills/interfere with your fights, if you are on comms with them, and especially if you are cordial with them, and get to know them a bit. I've had some great sorties with guys on comms (esp. Doggles), and we've worked together better than even guys in my old squad, who practiced together all the time. Another +1 to comms!

Yeah totally agree with CHeesehawk, random newbies and kids will come and go from the servers, it's the trade off for having them public. But it's easily fixed, fly with guy's who are on comms (I've never yet flown with anyone who was anything less than professional on ATAG comms) or better yet, join up with a squad a fly with squad-mates, that way you can really engage in tactical flights. There are plenty of good squads around - just check out guy's sigs, certainly the ATAG guys a great, likewise if you're in Aussie of NZ our squad RAAF is recruiting for Cliffs players now.

See you in the skies!

Recon.

[ATAG_Snapper]

Reflected, just to add to the responses you've received already. As Cheesehawk suggested, get Teamspeak 3 and a cheap set of earphones + mike (if you don't have a set already). Doing this enhanced my online experience tremendously just as the others have commented above.

Before this I, too, got hit from behind by friendly fire. I got no response to my queries on chat, but I gave the benefit of the doubt and assumed my Spit looked like a 109 to someone desperate to make a kill. No big deal, but it does put a crimp in the enjoyment of the game to get fragged like that. Now I usually fly in the company of several others in continuous spoken communication and my enjoyment of Cliffs of Dover online has increased a ton. Too bad my kills haven't! LOL

[trumps]

Heading back up to work today, just thought I would take the opportunity to say a big thanks to All I have flown with or against in the last week, have had a great time flying and on comms,even wracked up a few kills. Great fun all, cyas next week

Craig
( ATAG-Trumps)

[CWMV]

Originally Posted by ATAG_Snapper

Reflected, just to add to the responses you've received already. As Cheesehawk suggested, get Teamspeak 3 and a cheap set of earphones + mike (if you don't have a set already). Doing this enhanced my online experience tremendously just as the others have commented above.

Before this I, too, got hit from behind by friendly fire. I got no response to my queries on chat, but I gave the benefit of the doubt and assumed my Spit looked like a 109 to someone desperate to make a kill. No big deal, but it does put a crimp in the enjoyment of the game to get fragged like that. Now I usually fly in the company of several others in continuous spoken communication and my enjoyment of Cliffs of Dover online has increased a ton. Too bad my kills haven't! LOL

Never been hit by friendly fire, but have to agree that flyign as a group is far more enjoyable. I only ever fly on ATAG when my fellow II/JG53 Jagdflieger are on.
Only thing I dont get is the "Chat" in game. I know I must seem like a jerk because I dont say nice kill/good shot etc, but my chat windows are all off. How do you guys fly with all those pointless windows?