IL2 and Sound Modding

Originally Posted by Brain32

Jason you fail to understand only one thing, one VERY important thing. IL2 was not meant to be modded, I really like many of the mods I saw on "that place" but I don't like possible consequences of modding in general, that's it.
Now if the game was made from the begining with modding in mind it would be an entirely different thing, and we wouldn't have this discussion at all

exactly

[Baron]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Falcon 4.0 Abandonware??? You'd better let everyone know then...particularly the Open Falcon and Red Viper Mod teams! Abandonware...Is it not the Most Active Forum on SimHQ after IL2? What is possible to Mod? Well apart from everything...FMs Weapons Parameters, Avionics, The Dynamic Campaign, Graphics, Cockpits, Enemy AI, Addition of a realistic Ramp Start sequence...apart from that...Not much!

Janes F/A18 was released in 2000, a whole year before IL2 which was released in 2001

CFS3...can anyone say that CFS3 hasn't been improved by the OFF and MAW Mods?

So in summary...your post to trash Flight Sims that have been actively modded by the community is flawed and you failed to post a single example of a Flight Simulation which has suffered from an active community and third party modification.

I'll let that speak for itself...

CFS may have been "improved" by mods into MAW, but that doesnt change the fact that MAW is a piece of garbage. (in my humble opinion that is)

And im not even comparing it to IL2, its a peice of garbage all by its own, propably because its based on CFS game engine more than anything else.

Everything is relativ. In those old sims u mention it doesnt take much to "improve" the game since its crap (or old) to begin with. If mods where to be approved by oleg in IL2 ill bet u a sack of money that a maximum of 5% would hold enough high standard to make the cut, the other 95% makes it into any of the above mantioned "good" modded sims.

Sry if im to rough in words, but u talk about all the other sims like they are alive and kicking, and expands due to mods when u are perfectly aware of that fact that thats not the case.

Remember offline is not the same as online. Online is what we are talking about, thats what all this is about.


Let me put it this way: Name one other online WWII combatflight sim that can be compared to IL2.

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Falcon 4.0 Abandonware??? You'd better let everyone know then...particularly the Open Falcon and Red Viper Mod teams! Abandonware...Is it not the Most Active Forum on SimHQ after IL2? What is possible to Mod? Well apart from everything...FMs Weapons Parameters, Avionics, The Dynamic Campaign, Graphics, Cockpits, Enemy AI, Addition of a realistic Ramp Start sequence...apart from that...Not much!

Janes F/A18 was released in 2000, a whole year before IL2 which was released in 2001

CFS3...can anyone say that CFS3 hasn't been improved by the OFF and MAW Mods?

So in summary...your post to trash Flight Sims that have been actively modded by the community is flawed and you failed to post a single example of a Flight Simulation which has suffered from an active community and third party modification.

I'll let that speak for itself...

Once again I'll say, look at the online numbers, they are dead. Why do you keep bringing them up? You may have bought CFS3 for a few new mods, but 100 others dumped it.

[fireflyerz]

OH MY GOD.......Winge ,whine ,moan, grumble ,complain.....give it a rest, no one has ever invented anything that cant be destroyed,broken into, hacked, modded,.....ECT,its the way of the world and it will forever be this way,if your all cheezed off about the cheaters ,,then form your your own tight nit sim groups where no one else can get in and you feel safe from all the booooogy men out there.
Ive played this game for years but the biggest dissapointment was the sound, ITS NAF,so I added a sound mod and WoW it transfomed the game for me, since then ive added a few more to make the game a bit more realistic, but never anything to give me an unfair advantage or anything that isnt aicraft correct, I could if I wanted to but I dont , I know enough about this game and its aircraft to notice when somone is cheating and I just dont play them anymore, I like the realism in sturm, thats why I play it but I accept that spoilers are allways lurkin in the near distance, its just a fact of life. By the way some of the mod sites are fantastic , there working realy hard to keep this game interesting and enjoyable for people like me and there free too, Dont knock it till yav tried it..........
Jafa.

[jasonbirder]

In those...sims u mention it doesnt take much to "improve" the game since its crap

Yeah you're right! EAW, Falcon 4, Janes F/A18 etc etc...they were all crap! I'll bow to your superior knowledge and discernement!

[jasonbirder]

Name one other online WWII combatflight sim that can be compared to IL2

Well theres BOB II - WOV I enjoy both that and Il2

[ElAurens]

So, just how does BoB II stack up online vs. IL2?

[jasonbirder]

I'd say they both give me everything i'm looking for in an Online Flight Sim

[Rama]

you can play BoB II online?.... through a crystal ball maybe??

Jason.... are you sure you did ever play online a sim?... or just even played a sim?... or do you just play forums?

[jasonbirder]

It was a joke...I don't play Online so BOB II - WOV gives me everything im looking for in an Online Flight Sim
Cool down! It was humour