Friday 2010-09-03 Dev. update and Discussions

[Dafunkfire]

Originally Posted by ChrisDNT

Here is a good pic on how the British countryside should look, especially for the fields and trees implantantion :



So, still lot of work to do to look right !


P.S: it's a Spit Mk.21, so the pic is probably around 1945-46.

I hate to be repetitive.

I think the terrain would look excellent if the blueish veil caused by our atmosphere was implemented and visually prominent. This haziness would detract the small imperfections of distant textures. Refer to the photograph. Hell, Look across a field. It's there.

[OldFrenchy]

People tended to be a little smaller in those days, the average height of a man being 5' 8".
John Wayne towers above those people in any case.

[LukeFF]

Some people's propensity on this forum to bitch and moan about anything never ceases to amaze me.

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by MD_Titus

well... how can you say it would be more realistic? that looks more hollywood tbh.

i'm guessing to get blood splatter like that you'd be talking either arterial spray or explosive shells removing both tissue and clothing. don't forget pilots wore a lot of clothing and, at least in bob, were usually subject to death by rifle calibre bullets. combine these two factors and bleeding out would be limited to soaking pilot suits, not decorating the inside of the plane like someone has been overly enthusiastic with the ketchup bottle. unless you it's a very specific bullet strike area then there wouldn't be large amounts of blood splatter. and certainly not in such patterns as you've added.

I agree. We are much to influenced by the ketchup scene in the "Battle of Britain" movie.

Later in the war 30mm explosive shells might do a lot more damage to a human body, but the colour would be different and most of the displaced remains would likely be on other places than the windshield.

We should all be really impressed by the gunner moving around btw.

[McHilt]

Originally Posted by Dafunkfire

I hate to be repetitive.

I think the terrain would look excellent if the blueish veil caused by our atmosphere was implemented and visually prominent. This haziness would detract the small imperfections of distant textures. Refer to the photograph. Hell, Look across a field. It's there.

It might already be implemented as in IL2 you can also opt to set weather to hazy and beyond which generates the same effect as you show in the photograph. I guess SOW will have similar options if not better, I guess

[AndyJWest]

I'm fairly sure that both Spitfires and Hurricanes had a lever on the right side of the cockpit next to the seat which was used to adjust its height in flight. I'm tempted to suggest this is added to the sim, for realism (assuming it hasn't been done already). On the other hand, I'll be happy to do without, if we get to see SoW:BoB sooner.

[Igo kyu]

There are a lot of details lacking in the Blenheim picture.

There are "level crossings" on all current railroad crossings of roads in Britain, and I think there were back then too, though more often there were bridges taking the railways across the roads (often with a dip or cutting in the roads to take them under the railway, sometimes with an embankment to take the railway above the level of the road).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_crossing

The railway is now usually fenced off from fields, in the old days of the 1940s that would have been hedges, but almost nobody grows/lays hedges now, it's a dying folk craft, but in WW2 it would have been the main way of keeping one farmer's livestock out of another farmer's field, in a capitalist system, that matters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedge_laying

I do hope this helps, I was really quite shocked to see this. Most of the time, where unused old railway lines crossed roads there were bridges, now sometimes taken down, sometimes where it was the road that went up over the railway, still in use even though there is no railway under them.

[Sutts]

Thanks Luthier, looking great.

Love the peeled back skin on the bomber. The crew look very incapacitated...very well done....no need for blood at all.

The leaves on the trees look great too.

The hurri pilot's head does look a bit on the small side but it may just be the lack of the helmet. I do think a lot of the real pictures we see feature a raised seat for taxying purposes. Your point regarding the gun sight was very well put I thought.

I hate to say this but I think the country roads are way too wide (when compared to the train carriage). You're hard pushed to fit two modern UK spec. cars side by side on many UK country lanes. I guess that would make a road of about 16-18ft wide. The main line rail carriages of the day were 60-70ft long and the carriage appears to easily fit within the width of the road. No biggie though.

Cheers

[Icewolf]

this is my nephew at a farmers shed in saskatchewan ,canada. this hurricane is fully operational and the farmer flew it himself 3 times before parking it .
my nephew is 6 feet tall.he has no idea what model this is but I told him about this debate and he mentioned that he is not sitting on a parachute which I believe the pilots would be, thus the difference of clearance of the head.

the farmer has since sold the plane

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by Icewolf

this is my nephew at a farmers shed in saskatchewan ,canada. this hurricane is fully operational and the farmer flew it himself 3 times before parking it .
my nephew is 6 feet tall.he has no idea what model this is but I told him about this debate and he mentioned that he is not sitting on a parachute which I believe the pilots would be, thus the difference of clearance of the head.

the farmer has since sold the plane

Can't beat that.