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Originally Posted by mondo
Your statement is so utterly blanket and incorrect I don't know where to start.
No Yak 3 ever fought an 190A3. They are not even comparable as they never saw each other in combat. Your comparing an extemely late war aircraft, most of which were build after the war finished against an early war variant which were all but retired by the introduction of the Yak 3.
A3's were getting put up against Lagg3's, Yak1's and 7's (which were all inferior to A3's and 4's they would have met in all but turning circle). A Yak 3 was more likely to meet an A8 or D9 which both could roll with the Yak3 easily and the D9 edges past the Yak3 in quite few different areas of performance, unless your talking about post war varients.
Depending on the subvarient of 190 the roll rate actually got better as versions were introduced. The D9 could easily our roll a Yak 3 through out the speed range, especially as the speed range increased. Then there is diving, the whole Yak series were poor divers due to there weight and power or lack of and in many cases poor build quality.
Just check out the spitfireperformance site for actual performance test results.
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One thing you don't understand, is that the A8 could not roll with a Yak-3. The Yak-3 was primarily and always built for dogfighting, where the FWA8 was used as a fighter/bomber. Now that it was a bomber as well, it takes away the roll rate since it's heavier, and more armored. I used the FWA3 and Yak-3 because both were light and had good roll rates over their counterparts. So in theory, and from what their statistics are, if a Yak-3 were to go up against a FWA3, it could be a pretty fair and even dogfight. Both were lightly armored, and had fast speeds, which in a true dogfight you want in your fighter.
And your statement of Yak-3s going up against D9s is absolutely wrong. No Yak-3 ever flew its maximum height, and no D9 unless the pilot was an idiot flew below or at 5,000-6,000 ft. where the Yak-3 owned the skies. No German fighter could roll with a Yak-3 unless it was like a FWA3 or another early FW.
So until you understand your specs and have read up on the Yak-3, please don't come on my thread and try to tell me what I know to be true. Soviet pilots who flew Yak-3s do not lie.
Understand your Soviet Aircraft, then come on here and have a reasonable chat. Don't come on here and try to be rude. I've been learning about Soviet Aircraft for many many years, and have bought and read many books and memoirs of Soviet pilots and planes.
09-04-2009, 09:43 AM
And also, in the last few years, a lot of information has come out on Russian fighters during WW2. I believe, it was a Westerner who asked Yakovlev to make a flyable Yak-3 in the first place.
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