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Old 04-27-2009, 02:21 PM
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Default Item Morale Guide in English anywhere?

I have seen that the Russian manual includes all details but, I don't know why, the rest of the world not speaking Russian seems not worthy to know those details.

So is anybody did the translation job for the item morale part and put it somewhere?
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:25 PM
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I have seen that the Russian manual includes all details but, I don't know why, the rest of the world not speaking Russian seems not worthy to know those details.

So is anybody did the translation job for the item morale part and put it somewhere?
Such info was already posted on this forum, just use search. In any case please ask more exact question, will be glad to help.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:29 PM
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Such info was already posted on this forum, just use search. In any case please ask more exact question, will be glad to help.
Imagine I already search in the forum and that's why I found a link to the Russian ma,ual.

Anyway thanks for your proposal, very nice, I hope you was expecting my next question.
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:36 PM
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So the question is how is working the morale for the following items and are those formula right for those I give the formula?

Also I'm not sure that this item with morale list is complete so feel free to complete it if you want.

EDIT: Edited to use the information given by Nike-it.

Mantle of Wizardry/Cape of Wizardry/Cloak of Wizardry:
Increasing by 6 for 6 magic crystals
Decreasing by CkassK*IntK after every fight where
ClassK=1 (mage), 2 (paladin), 3 (warrior)
IntK = 3 (intellect<10), 2 (intellect<20), 1 (intellect>=20)

Steam Armor:
Never increases morale
Decreasing by 5 after every fight
Out of context quote: The effect of this item apply only to small fighters ie all humanoid fighters but not those like giant. To list it: all humans; elves besides werewolf-elf and ents; Undead besides Vampire-bat and Bone Dragon; Orcs besides Ogre; Dwarves besides Giant; Demons besides Demon; and Barbarian, Berserk, Pirat, Sea Dog.

Jackboots:
Increasing never
Decreasing -5 after each fight

Snake Ring:
Increasing by 2 if there was snakes in hero army
Decreasing by 5 if there was snakes in enemy army
When morale reaches 100 ring turns to "Ring of snake king"

Ring of the Snake King:
Increasing by 2 if there was snakes in hero army
Decreasing by 10 if there was snakes in enemy army

Crown of Blackthorn:
Increasing by 2 after every fight
Decreasing by 20 if there was plants in enemy army
Plants are thorns and ents.

Elven Crown:
Increasing by 1 after every fight
Decreasing by 8 if there was elves in enemy army
Decreasing by 4 if there was undead in hero army.

The Face of Pandemonic:
Increasing +1 after each fight, when gets 100 turns into The Mask of Pandemonic
Decreasing never

The Mask of Pandemonic:
Increasing +1 after each fight, when gets 100 turns into The Face of Pandemonic
Decreasing never

Sign of the Diplomat:
Increasing never
Decreasing after using special feature.

Silver Horn:
Increasing by 5 if there was dwarves in enemy army
Decreasing by 10 if there was elves in enemy army

Paladin Shield:
Increasing 1 after each fight, +1 enemy had demons in the army, +2 enemy had undeads in the army
Decreasing -5 demos in the hero's army, -8 undeads in the hero's army
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Archmage staff:
Increasing never
Decreasing -2 enemy had archmages in the army

Dragon Slayer's Sword:
Increasing by 10 if there was dragons in enemy army
Decreasing by 5 after every fight

Equilibrium Sword:
Increasing by 5 if there was undead or demons in enemy army
Decreasing by 5 if there was humans or elves in enemy army
Humans are only units with type human, not pirates, not barbarians

Great Druid's Staff:
Increasing never
Decreasing -1 after each fight, -3 enemy had animals in the army
Animals are spiders but not undead spiders, snakes, bears, wolves but not werewolves, griffins, licornes white and black, devilfish, dragonfly, hyena, kraken, turtle, not ancien phenix, not dragons, not sheeps, not beholders, not cerberus, not bats

King's Hammer:
Increasing +5 only dwarves in the hero's army, +1 hero had dwarves and other races
Decreasing -4 no dwarws in the hero's army, -10 enemy had dwarves in the army

Ogre's Club:
Never increases morale
Decreasing by 2 after every fight

Treatise of tactics:
Never increases morale
Decreasing by 3 if you have less than 5 might runes

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Old 04-28-2009, 08:27 AM
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Great Druid's Staff:
Increasing never
Decreasing -1 after each fight, -3 enemy had animals in the army

King's Hammer:
Increasing +5 only dwarves in the hero's army, +1 hero had dwarves and other races
Decreasing -4 no dwarws in the hero's army, -10 enemy had dwarves in the army

Archmage stuff:
Increasing never
Decreasing -2 enemy had archmages in the army

Sign of the Diplomat:

Increasing never
Decreasing after using special feature.

Jackboots:
Increasing never
Decreasing -5 after each fight

The Face of Pandemonic:
Increasing +1 after each fight, when gets 100 turns into The Mask of Pandemonic
Decreasing never

The Mask of Pandemonic:
Increasing +1 after each fight, when gets 100 turns into The Face of Pandemonic
Decreasing never

Paladin Shield:

Increasing 1 after each fight, +1 enemy had demons in the army, +2 enemy had undeads in the army
Decreasing -5 demos in the hero's army, -8 undeads in the hero's army
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Old 04-28-2009, 01:02 PM
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Huuu thanks a lot, very kind.

EDIT1: That's terrible to see the formula and then wonder why you didn't guess it. I didn't try search the formula for all but I did for the staff and king's hammer... and I was so far. LOL

EDIT2: Woo and now I won't hesitate use the Great Druid Staff when I need, I was sure it could not decrease!

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Old 04-30-2009, 04:12 PM
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Just quote that this one is wrong:

Jackboots:
Increasing never
Decreasing -5 after each fight.

I checked carefully and does two gremlins fights without to have its morale decrease. I'm using version 1.7. Among condition of those fights, wife Mirabella that was wearing the boots and Seadog in army (no other pirate or robber).

Nobody has a more precise formula for this one?

EDIT: Weird my Jackboots seems different. It has the +1 to the Speed to Pirates and Robbers and the +10% increase of Gold after combat. But unlike description I see at gamebanshee it has a morale of 80 not 50.
Not that I increased its morale no reason to have use it before the two fights mentioned above. Probably a 1.7 change.

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Old 04-30-2009, 05:16 PM
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Just to clarify, you found that it did not decrease after two item upgrade/suppression battles, correct?

If that is what you meant by gremlin battles, then the reason for it is that those fights don't count the same as ordinary battles. I don't think, for example, that they have any effect on item morale, or on x for items that give an extra bonus after x victories.

Oh, and I have found at least two instances where Gamebanshee's information is wrong, so I wouldn't put full trust in any info on that site.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:55 PM
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Ok thanks I didn't knew/quote that point about Gremlins battle.

I just quoted that for this item, same setup but normal fight and I get the -5 morale. So no problem with the morale description. And for the wrong item detail at gamebanshee well certainly a typo. some error perhaps but still a good information even if still quite incomplete for this game. Very useful for me also to find English names.

About translation, in my language French there are some very weird points. The best (worse) is Sprite which is translated in three names, Farfadet, Lutin and Sprite! But worse Goblins are also translated in two names, Gobelin and... Lutin! Lol, I never seen so awful and quite confusing for the player. Apart unit names that get rewarded by an ugly translation work, the translation seems not that bad, but I also notice few dialogs still in English, perhaps this is coming from patches.

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