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On 4th of May 2023, Team Fusion introduced Update - Patch v5.036.
Along with Patch v5.036, the Team Fusion ambient standard temperatures should have been updated to more realistic atmospheric values. Temperature should vary according to the time of day. For me, this idea is one of the most important steps since the first release of Team Fusion's standard atmosphere. Unfortunately, Team Fusion had to roll back the update to pre-5.036 versions. Nevertheless, there was enough time for a few tests before the rollback. The tests under v5.036 atmospheric conditions give me reason to urgently request a thorough examination of the Team Fusion atmospheric model and a comparison of airspeed relationships against the former original Team Maddox model. I'm trying to keep my findings, conclusions, suggestions as brief as possible... I'm going to use the Bf109F as an example because there is a reliable open-source document available about the performance and airspeeds of the real warbird: http://kurfurst.org/Performance_test...1F2_DB601N.PDF To compare the authentic values against 'TeamFusion-Bf109F' following values are required: double indicatedAirspeed = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.I_Velocity IAS, -1); double trueAirspeed = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.Z_Velocity TAS, -1); double ambientAirTemperature = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.Z_AmbientA irTemperature, -1); double geometricAltitude = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.Z_Altitude MSL, -1); The Patch v5.036 autumn map tests with the Bf109F at approximately 5000m above the Channel revealed the following data. Quote:
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586 km/h max. at 5000 metres ISA Pressure Altitude [1] are possible. Concerning Indicated Airspeed: As far as I know, all real German warbirds playable in 'iL2CoD' were equipped with the Bruhn Fl.22231 (60-750kmh) airspeed indicator. The airspeed indicator depends on the Pitot tube Fl.22261 for its operation. The pressure generated by the Fl.22261 for airspeed and altitude is calibrated based on the relationship: dynamic pressure q = 0.5 * r * V² = 0.5 * r * TAS² In which q is usually known as the incompressible dynamic pressure, r is the air density at current flight level, and V is the True Airspeed at flight level, that would produce the same incompressible dynamic pressure that is produced at ISA sea level conditions dynamic pressure q = 0,5 * 1,225 * V² = 0,5 * 1,225 * EAS² Nearly all airspeed indicators that have been used on German warbirds during WWII function this way. It is this definition that makes IAS a useful airspeed measurement without the need to correct for altitude or temperature. Please note: Only under standardized conditions the Indicated Airspeed (IAS) is equal to Equivalent Airspeed (EAS). So, 460 km/h True Airspeed [1] at Mean Sea Level produces the same incompressible dynamic pressure q(h,TAS) as 586 km/h True Airspeed [1] at 4770 metres. In fact, based on the relationship <q=0.5*r*V²>, the indicated speed depends on a Density Altitude of 4610 metres [2] plus 160 metres = 4770 metres... Quote:
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Conclusion: When considering the described calibration/correction of the Bf109 air speed indicator accidently as pressure altitude, one might assume that the air density corresponds to ~0,7361 kg³ @5000m or ~0.7390 kg³ @4964m! However, that would be a misinterpretation. The air density actually corresponds to the calculated "density altitude" of ~0.7677 kg/m³ @4610m under standard atmosperic condition where density ~1.225 kg/m³ @0m. The air density is thus actually higher than one would initially assume. It's the atmospheric condition at which the Bf109F "feels" it is flying. The higher the altitude or speed, the clearer it becomes how ingenious the 'Flugleistungen, Blatt No.6' (see above mentioned link) fits to the real world atmosphere ... ... under North African conditions. For pilots operating above the English Channel, the airspeed indicator correction according to 'Flugleistungen, Blatt No.6' is not suitable. Kind regards Varrattu References: Kennblatt für das Flugzeugmuster Bf109, Baureihe F1 und F2 mit DB601N, Berlin 1941 Fluglehre, 5.Auflage, Mises (1936) Fahrtmessung, Prof.Dr.KOPPE (1940) Normalatmosphäre nach DIN 5450 (1937), Artillerie und Ballistik, Springer Verlag 1939 Beschreibung für FUESS Hoehenmesser 7a,b,c NACA Report No.110 - The Altitude Effect On Air Speed Indicators, Part I NACA Report No.156 - The Altitude Effect On Air Speed Indicators, Part II NACA Report No.420 - Aircraft Speed Instruments NACA Technical Note No.99 - Notes On The Standard Atmosphere NACA Technical Note No.616 - Measurement Of Air Speed NACA Reference Publication 1046 - Measurement Of Speed And Altitude Edit 2024-09-09: Fl.22231 pressure q = 0.5 * D(h,m+360) * V² corrected for Fl.22231 pressure q = 0.5 * D(h,m+354) * V²
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In my first post, I made a little oversight there. I mistakenly referred to the return value of the field <Parameter(part.ParameterTypes.Z_AltitudeMSL> as "Pressure Altitude."
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2023-Dec-17, meanwhile 1C Entertainment and Team Fusion have published 'Cliffs Of Dover - Blitz' v5.040 and we are flying in a 24-7-365 virtual atmosphere that, at first glance comes very close to the German 'Normalatmosphäre nach DIN 5450' of 1937 [ref.1]. And what we have known as the International Standard Atmosphere for nearly 50 years [ref.2]. All in all, that's quite good for carrying out a few more airspeed tests ...
The 'Cliffs Of Dover - Blitz' v5.040 atmosphere If something that I'm writing is not clear, please leave a comment, and I'll do my best to make it clearer. The sea-level quantities of pressure, temperature, density, and the acceleration of gravity for Team Fusion -Blitz- atmosphere v5.040 are assumed as follows: Quote:
air density Dh = { Ph : (Rair * Th) } = Dsl * { (Tsl * Ph) : (Psl * Th) } This equation formes the basis for numerous flight simulations, also for 1C-Maddox 'Cliffs Of Dover' v11.20362 … The altitude is given as geometric altitude (Z,m) as a function of metric length by Quote:
Here, we must make a distinction between the FMB geometric altitude (Z, m), which represents the actual 'tape measure metric' altitude above sea level, and the geopotential altitude (H, m), which is a pressure altitude consistent with the assumption of a constant value of gravity (g=9.80665) [ref.2], [ref.3], [ref.4]. Relation between geometric altitude Z,m and geopotential altitude H,m is Quote:
The 'Cliffs Of Dover - Blitz' v5.040 flight test If something that I'm writing is not clear, please leave a comment, and I'll do my best to make it clearer. I will continue to use the Bf109F-1 because there are reliable documents available regarding the performance and airspeeds of the warbird [ref.5] [ref.6]. To compare the 'TeamFusion-Bf109F' against authentic values [ref.5] following FMB script values are required: double geometricAlt = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.Z_Altitude MSL, -1); where <geometricAlt> reveales the geometric altitude as quantity in meters above sea level. double indicatedAirspeed = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.I_Velocity IAS, -1), where <indicatedAirspeed> reveales IAS as quantity in kilometers per hour (km/h), double trueAirspeed = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.Z_Velocity TAS, -1), where <trueAirspeed> reveales TAS as quantity in meters per second (m/s). double outerAirTemp = bf109f.getParameter(part.ParameterTypes.Z_AmbientA irTemperature, -1), where <outerAirTemp> reveales OAT as quantity in degrees Kelvin. The Patch v5.040 summer map tests with the Bf109F at 5004m geometric altitude above the Channel revealed the following quantities. Quote:
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Once pressure altitude has been determined, the density altitude is calculated using outside air temperature. Density altitude is formally defined as the “pressure altitude corrected for nonstandard temperature variations.” Quote:
Well, in a WWII single seat fighter the dynamic or impact pressure is the only directly measurable quantity that relates to the aircraft's speed with respect to the air. The Bf109F was equipped with the Bruhn Fl.22231 (60-750kmh) airspeed indicator [ref.6]. The airspeed indicator depends on the Fl.22261 Pitot-Static tube for its operation. The pressure generated by the Pitot tube for airspeed at current altitude is calibrated based on the relationship: dynamic pressure q = 0.5 * D * V². Doubtful that any WWII pilot has ever flown under so-called standard conditions. So, all German WWII airspeed indicators were corrected for certain air pressure conditions in the battle area they were used. Consequently, airspeed indicators show readings that are safer for piloting. The performance table [ref.5], for example, shows airspeeds corrected for density altitudes DA+354 metres. Quote:
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On the other hand, 441:570 km/h (IAS:TAS) correspond approximately to the atmosphere being designed by Team Fusion. To be continued. References: [1] Normalatmosphäre nach DIN 5450 (1937) [2] 1976 International Standard Atmosphere (PDF) [3] 1962 Manual of the US Standard Atmosphere (PDF) [4] 1940 Terrestrische Navigation (Ringbuch der Luftfahrttechnik (p.361-p371) [5] Kennblatt für das Flugzeugmuster Bf109, Baureihe F1 und F2 mit DB601N, Berlin 1941 [6] Fl.22231 - Bf109F ErsatzteilListe 04.1941 (JPG) [7] NACA Reference Publication 1046 - Measurement Of Speed And Altitude, Chapter III (p.25) [8] Standard Atmosphere Calculator [9] Airspeed Conversions (CAS/EAS/TAS/Mach) Edit 2024-05-30: Fl.22231 pressure q = 0.5 * D(h,m+360) * V² corrected for Fl.22231 pressure q = 0.5 * D(h,m+354) * V²
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