Battle Of Britain: Storm Of War - Pilot's Lounge

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

The question is asked several times because we simply get no answers.

Asking a question more than once has no positive influence on the likelyhood of any answer, let alone the hoped for answer.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Bobb4

Speaking as a four-year-old, Rise of Flight (ROF) have show everyone exactly how to interact with the community.
Despite heavy condemnation of their online login policy, they did not hide away, they faced their critics and moved forward.

With all due respect, but ...

1.) Oleg already tried the road of communicating with the community. He has done it for years, but it didn't do him any good. He was flamed, belittled, accused of cultivating various bias, swamped with demands of small-minded "I want! Now! Gimme! Whine!" folks and ultimately people accused him of having no idea how to run his business. Why should he bother with this narrow-minded, greedy, moronic and impolite community? Why should he post updates when all he gets is a load of flak?

And secondly (IMO, of course):

2.) neoQB are not any better in regards to direct answers to direct questions. Their online-nonsense has caused people to ask "Why?" and all we got (repeatedly) was pussyfooting around the issue and evasive BS about "user value" or "RoF is a service". If they were so "communicative" how come they didn't have the bollocks to say "This is our anti-piracy approach" straight away?


And lastly let me ask all of you who demand a release date one question: Is your life so awful, so empty and are you such sorry creatures that you have to make a computer game the center of your life? The behavior of some here makes me think so ... *shakes head*

[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by csThor

And lastly let me ask all of you who demand a release date one question: Is your life so awful, so empty and are you such sorry creatures that you have to make a computer game the center of your life? The behavior of some here makes me think so ... *shakes head*

Actually no, I fly IL2, regularly for an online squadron, play empire total war (a really fun game dispite it's quirky ai), I have an active social life, I am married with two lovely children and very happy.
Because I choose to be critical of something does not make me social retarded or obsessed.
I enjoy the odd verbal battle on this forum which in some small way may achieve a desired result.
And my defense of ROF was not in their policy just in their community involvement.

[Skoshi Tiger]

For me, comming to the IL-2 forum is a bit like fishing.

I don't expect to actually find any new information about il2/Bob when I come here. But I thinks it's because of this, the excitement I get when I actually find something new is really big.

I am really looking forward to BoB being released, because of the good job Oleg and Co did with Il-2. Good things take time to develop and grow and I hope BoB doesn't get forced out the door before it's maker is ready to release it, just to make a quick buck.

So what if Rise of flight gets released first? (or any other sim/game for that matter) I'll more than likely have a look at it and if I like it more than IL-2 I probably be posting on a Rise of flight forum instead and pop in over here till BoB is released.

But in my opinion Oleg and the rest of his developers has earnt a good degree of respect for what they have already done and that leads to a certain amount of customer loyalty from me.

Cheers!

[csThor]

Quite frankly Bobb, being critical is not a bad thing. I am critical of several things regarding the BoB development (but this pertains to individual aspects or objects) and not the information policy. What I simply despise is the steady repetition of the same question for a release date again and again. First and foremost it's probably not known even to Oleg when the game will be done. And secondly behaving like a small kid in the back of the family car asking "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?" isn't going to help, either. It just makes one look anything but adult. Why bother with a release date? It'll come out when it's done. It's not like the world is stopped until SoW comes out ...

And concerning the information policy. I have been following the Il-2 development ever since Oleg made his first steps into the spotlight a decade ago. Looking back at the turn of events I'd say development updates and Q&As were a major mistake, because - as I said in my first post - it simply created an unreal atmosphere of expectitions (which Maddox Games could never fulfill) and gave too many jerks a platform for their 5 minutes of Internet fame. Oleg was flamed, accused of bias, whined at, showered with ridiculous demands and even more ridiculous rumors and was all too often personally attacked ... and nothing can justify that behavior. I can fully understand why he is keeping his cards so close to his chest this time and I agree with him - no need to hold out your hand if you're getting your own words thrown back at you.

I have no problem with Oleg keeping his cards close to his chest if thats what you want to call it, I'm just chasing up on news posted on here which has come directly from 1C, If they make a post saying 'such and such will be done by December' then surely it is to be expected that people will ask for news on it. That is not flaming Oleg in any shape or form.
Personally i dont think anyone at 1c have any problems with what questions are being asked here, its certain over protective fans of Oleg that are stomping their feet and getting all upset. You all need to calm down no-ones getting hurt they are just questions. We could always start a new thread where no one asks any questions just in case you guys get all over emotional, stop being drama queens and let Oleg or 1C speak for themselves.

[csThor]

So what? You didn't sign a contract with Oleg Maddox stating that you will get an update in December, did you? I mean I just don't understand the fuss about it. It's such a non-issue really, that rehashing the topic again and again is just not worth the time one needs to type. This is what I do not get ...

[Forgottenfighter]

you guys get all over emotional, stop being drama queens.

Hypocrisy be thy name, Tree_UK.

Oh no!, where is our update, you promised us an update and we want it now!... I think the SOW BOB project has been shut down, after years of work they just gave up....there is no chance that it will be finished before 2012. Does that sound familiar, because that is what I hear coming from your side of the fence.

I enjoy the odd verbal battle on this forum which in some small way may achieve a desired result

Me too

Originally Posted by csThor

So what? You didn't sign a contract with Oleg Maddox stating that you will get an update in December, did you? I mean I just don't understand the fuss about it. It's such a non-issue really, that rehashing the topic again and again is just not worth the time one needs to type. This is what I do not get ...

lol, your funny, anyway you dont seem to understand its you and others unfounded anger at these questions that keeps rehashing them. Now please calm down.

Originally Posted by Forgottenfighter

Hypocrisy be thy name, Tree_UK.

Oh no!, where is our update, you promised us an update and we want it now!... I think the SOW BOB project has been shut down, after years of work they just gave up....there is no chance that it will be finished before 2012. Does that sound familiar, because that is what I hear coming from your side of the fence.


Me too

Do you know what Hypocrisy actually means?

1. I have never posted 'Where is our update you promised and we want it now' This is pure fiction on your part.
2. I have never posted that the SOW project has been shut down. Again pure fiction on your part.
3. I have never posted that the there's no chance the game will be released by 2012. Once more your over creative mind has been playing tricks on you.