SoW specifications

[tagTaken2]

Originally Posted by Tigertooo

But as i am going for ROF that will come out before SoW, i want to do a serious upgrade on my OS rather soon,
Thanks

I'd wait for RoF to actually come out, I think (hope!) that it should be out within two months?

For example, yesterday morning I would have thought dualcore was probably better, now it's definitely quadcore. It's good that they're telling us, but if it will be out shortly it might be better to wait and be sure.
SoW could be a looooong time, perhaps even an upgrade away, less of a factor for me.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

absolutely not true...I asked one of the Neoqb guys about that and he said ROF is optimised ONLY for c2duo (dual cores)....btw, new chipset could be easily an old one soon....i7 is not better for gaming than c2duo....

heres what they told us, for smooth play at 1680x1050 you will need:

c2duo 2,8 Ghz (lets say E8400 on stock is more than enough, overclocked even better)
Ati Radeon 4850 or Nvidia 9800GTX/GTX+ (for 24" monitors and 1920 res ill choose 4870 or GTX260)
3-4 gigs of RAM
app. 6 Gigs of free HDD space
Access to the Internet: At least 512 Kb/s ( opp. I think 2mbps would be optimal)

MY statement was Absolutely True...

Posted by =FB=VikS at 06:54 AM April 24th 2009 at SimHQ ROF forum

"ROF have separated threads architecture, so two/four cores will work. Actually we have exact numbers of trials of core duo vs core quad, and core quad works 30-40% faster than core duo with ROF."

Also you have an upgrade path with the new Core I7 1366 socket that the next generation Intel cpus will use. Your upgrade path is basicly dead if you stay with dual core 775 socket.

The system that you suggest will run ROF fine but if your building a new system why not build something that will run ROF and SOW better with some future proofing.

[SlipBall]

"ROF have separated threads architecture, so two/four cores will work. Actually we have exact numbers of trials of core duo vs core quad, and core quad works 30-40% faster than core duo with ROF."



I like to get a look at those number's if possible, I'll go look around at the Sim HQ

i will check this with the team....btw, which CPUs they compared? Its not the same quad i7 920 on 2,4 Ghz and 8500 c2duo overclocked at 4 Ghz......btw, the higher the resolution the less impact CPU has on the performance....


EDIT: argh now i saw Viks post at simhq...how I missed that post....shh....anyway my info is older so...amazing, ROF is using 4 cores....but still thers not mention of which quad is better of which c2duo.....and at what speed and resolution...

[Forgottenfighter]

Lets not forget about the Core i5 which should be out in March I think, we're talking 8 cores now.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

Originally Posted by Forgottenfighter

Lets not forget about the Core i5 which should be out in March I think, we're talking 8 cores now.

Yes, but much the same as the i7.....there are not 8 "real cores", 4 are virtual. They look good too though, I think Tomshardware has some benchmarks on them which I will read up on when I get the time.....interesting stuff. There will always be something bigger and better though, and corei7 can probably be best described as evolutionary rather than an outright paradigm shift. The fact remains that in terms of raw processing power, core for core....they are the fastest things out there at the moment (abeit in synthetic benchmarks) and with the increasing trend of developers making apps multi-threaded it bodes well, hence my recommendation. I can only speak from experience and whilst it is true when Tvrdi says the core duo will perform many apps just as well if not better, AT PRESENT it is not likely to remain as so....if Oleg is saying SOW will certainly take advantage of Quad core, then it would be reasonable to assume a quad of whatever ilk would outperform a duo.

The corei7 "rapes" DCS black shark metaphorically speaking, which is very demanding.....and I am confident due to that SimHq post it will run ROF very well too.

Peace out.

[Chivas]

It mostly depends if the game uses the extra cores. Very few present games are programmed for multicore use so a higher clocked dual core would always perform better. ROF and SOW will be programmed for multicore cpus, so the best upgrade path would be a quad core on a newer socket for atleast one upgrade path.

[Forgottenfighter]

The Gfx card will likely have a greater impact on performance than the CPU, though a good CPU is necessary so as to avoid bottlenecks. The GTX285 looks promising but I haven't read much about it yet, the GTX295 is too power hungry in my opinion. I think I will stick with a 9800GTX+ and a Q6600 until there are some major breakthroughs.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Forgottenfighter

The Gfx card will likely have a greater impact on performance than the CPU, though a good CPU is necessary so as to avoid bottlenecks. The GTX285 looks promising but I haven't read much about it yet, the GTX295 is too power hungry in my opinion. I think I will stick with a 9800GTX+ and a Q6600 until there are some major breakthroughs.

Il-2 has always been very cpu intensive, I don't see that changing in SOW. Especially now that the SOW software will use multicore cpus effectively. I recently upgrade my 7900GTX gpu for another Nvidia XFX GTX260-216 Black edition and seen no increase in fps unless I went to higher resolutions. I see a much greater increase in fps when overclocking my cpu from 3 gigs to 3.8.

[Forgottenfighter]

That is a fair point Chivas, and you're probably right, but Sow Bob will have textures with four times the resolution of Il2 textures, aircraft will have 5 times the polygon count and there will be other things such as shadows in the cockpit which will be renedered in real time, based on the position of the sun etc. These tasks will be Gpu intensive, and there is no way that the likes of a 7900GTX will handle that, you should definately see the extra power of the GTX260 with Sow Bob. Like I said in my last post, it will be important to have a good CPU also. The CPU will have to handle things such as the flight model (I assume), radar, AI etc.