Mod "Accelerated Mana Regen"

Keneth · #1 01-11-2009, 06:48 PM

Well mine doesn't deal with character stats and interface mod is purely cosmetic so there shouldn't be any relation. Like I said, to make sure it's actually a bug in the mod, you need to be able to replicate it and only with the mod active.

bman654 · #2 01-12-2009, 03:24 PM

Read earlier in the thread. Someone else said sometimes the max mana just goes up by 30 for no reason when opening a chest. He did some tests and proved it wasn't the mod's fault but a bug in the game. Anyway you can use the console cheat to lower your max mana back to a normal amount. I don't recall the exact command but I think it also is earlier in the thread.

Metathron · #3 01-13-2009, 05:20 PM

If it's a bug in the game, how come it has never happened before, in three full games and a couple partial, without the mod?

Don't get me wrong, it's great that we have people who are willing to spend time on improving or diversifying the game, I just can't make sense of this being a core game bug.

Keneth · #4 01-14-2009, 12:56 AM

Well it stands to reason that unless you can find a liable cause for the bug or an instance of recurrence, it's more likely an error within the game code (which covers everything) rather than the mod (which supposedly has nothing to do with max mana), and the fact that it's happening now merely a matter of circumstance.

(sorry for the fancy words)

bman654 · #5 01-14-2009, 05:37 PM

Many are using the mod and not seeing the bug either. So it is as is typical for a bug - it only happens sometimes. Post #23 (the post just before yours) confirms the bug is reproducable without the mod. I personally have not seen it with or without the mod,.

BuffaloX · #6 01-18-2009, 11:53 PM

I have two times now experienced +30 to my max mana, one time at level 5, and one time at level 7, it didn´t happen with my previous game, which I played to level 8, I started over because there were no royal snakes...

I didn't notice it when it happened, but first time I tried to load a save game,
that was only two minutes old, and do exactly the same things again, but without getting the extra 30 mana.

I was in the graveyard both times, so it may very well have happened while looting graves?

I will now remove the mana mod, can anybody point me to a cheater so I can reset my mana to normal?

I now have 119 mana at level 7, my first game I had 160 mana at level 26.
Too bad this is happening, it is a very cool idea with this mana mod.
I think it is the mod causing this, because I haven´t seen this happening to anyone not using this mod.

PS I use game version 1.64

Keneth · #7 01-19-2009, 12:19 AM

You can try typing "mana -30" in the console but I'm not sure it accepts negative values. I don't think there's any savegame editors out there so the only other option is making a small mod like a consumable item or a script. As far as the bug is concerned it might simply be that no one noticed it during a regular game since they had no reason to. It could be some simple power of suggestion, since they noticed the bug while using a mod that restores mana, the first thing they related it to is the mod. But as someone already mentioned, they've encountered the bug even while not using the mod, so proving that the bug happens while using the mod doesn't really achieve anything, it's like solving only one side of the equation. If you want to be certain that it's a bug in the mod, you have to also be able to prove that the bug can't occur while not using the mod.

SeomanCC · #8 02-02-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bman654

Many are using the mod and not seeing the bug either. So it is as is typical for a bug - it only happens sometimes. Post #23 (the post just before yours) confirms the bug is reproducable without the mod. I personally have not seen it with or without the mod,.

Ok I finally figured it out. The 30 mana is a bug caused by the mod after all.

Duplicate as follows...

1) Hover over the day/time display and often your mana doesn't instantly update. (I usually open up my spellbook and close it and try again, then it works) But in this case we want it to fail to regen your mana.

2) Pick up any pile of coins or chest with gold in it. There needs to be a +gold update to your character because when you did step 1, it updates your max mana +30 instead. You will even see your mana flash briefly same as the gold does when you get gold.

I can replicate this bug at will now. I got in the habit of quicksaving before picking up chests in case the bug occurred so at least I only have about 240 mana at level 28. Still excessive though

pdizzle · #9 02-28-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SeomanCC

Ok I finally figured it out. The 30 mana is a bug caused by the mod after all.

Duplicate as follows...

1) Hover over the day/time display and often your mana doesn't instantly update. (I usually open up my spellbook and close it and try again, then it works) But in this case we want it to fail to regen your mana.

2) Pick up any pile of coins or chest with gold in it. There needs to be a +gold update to your character because when you did step 1, it updates your max mana +30 instead. You will even see your mana flash briefly same as the gold does when you get gold.

I can replicate this bug at will now. I got in the habit of quicksaving before picking up chests in case the bug occurred so at least I only have about 240 mana at level 28. Still excessive though

This is confirmed by me also. I can reproduce it at will as well. I didn't know about the open/close spellbook quickfix tho..thx for that. That cuts down on my, "mana -1, mana --previous mana--" routines.