Il-2 MODs

[LEXX]

Weasel (to Copper)

Grow up man, and stop making up these un-founded accusations.

Yea I saw that too.

[Furio]

Two posts I’d like to read.
1) I’m a modder. Yes, sometimes I doubt that all this hacking is unfair, but I simply did not resist. All those new wonderful planes and maps and effects... I know that Oleg has all his rights on IP, but I think he should understand us, with all our enthusiasm. Peace!
2) I’m against mods. I think that long-term damage outweighs short-term enjoyment. I can’t talk for Oleg, but yes, I understand you and your enthusiasm. Peace!

Have a nice year.

[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by LEXX

Weasel (to Copper)
Yea I saw that too.

Unfounded. right.
there is a donation space rigth there on there site.
And i've been told that thier new unified installer....does not require that you 1st have the game installed.

unfounded....no i don't think so.

[flyingbullseye]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

And i've been told that thier new unified installer....does not require that you 1st have the game installed.

You've been told but don't know from first hand experience? I've got to believe you are better than that. How would the unified installer work when there is nothing for it to install to if you don't need the sim installed first?

Flyingbullseye

[311thCopperhead]

Originally Posted by flyingbullseye

You've been told but don't know from first hand experience? I've got to believe you are better than that. How would the unified installer work when there is nothing for it to install to if you don't need the sim installed first?

Flyingbullseye

I have not...nor will i ever download the trash posted on that web site.
I i fear that my PC may spontanously combust.
So no i have not tested it to see but rather am relying on information from
some one i'm freinds with on the inside over there. One of thier most trusted guys. The same person who sent me the FM's. One of the reasons i'm so up in arms about it. i KNOW what's going on behind the curtain.

and some of you can apint it any color you like but it's still gonna look like dog$hit in the end.

As for me proving the claims i make are not unfounded....the burden of proof lies with those whom think i'm BS'ing them. So prove what i've said is unfounded. prove it. i dare you. prove me wrong. you can't and you know it.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

I have not...nor will i ever download the trash posted on that web site.
I i fear that my PC may spontanously combust.
So no i have not tested it to see but rather am relying on information from
some one i'm freinds with on the inside over there. One of thier most trusted guys. The same person who sent me the FM's. One of the reasons i'm so up in arms about it. i KNOW what's going on behind the curtain.

and some of you can apint it any color you like but it's still gonna look like dog$hit in the end.

As for me proving the claims i make are not unfounded....the burden of proof lies with those whom think i'm BS'ing them. So prove what i've said is unfounded. prove it. i dare you. prove me wrong. you can't and you know it.

You're source is lying to you, period, end of story. You ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IL2 1946 INSTALLED AND PATCHED TO 4.08 IN ORDER TO GET THE UNIFIED INSTALLER TO WORK!!!!!!

In fact I did a fresh install and applied the unified installer and it didn't work, because I had forgotten to install the 4.08m patch.


Brain32, you are correct that we are guilty of throwing all anti-mod people in with the mods=cheat crowd, and for that I apologize. I've said before that I understand and respect the position of those who have thought it out honestly and still don't want to partake. It's the ones who spread flames, BS, and lies and do it loudly and with much venom that I rail against.

But to suggest that there was no cheating before the mods is ridiculous, I know you've been around for some time, I'm familiar with your handle, you should know better, there have been cheaters since the original il2. There has always been the suspicion of cheating as well, anytime I was on teamspeak with a group of people (way before the mods) and there was a person or a group of pilots that came in and started owning the whole server everyone in there would scream "cheat!" and start speculating about how they are cheating. Actual cheating and the suspicion of cheating are nothing new in this sim, it's always been there. Perhaps suspicion is up slightly but the actual cheating hasn't increased as far as I can tell.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Originally Posted by Urufu_Shinjiro

You're source is lying to you, period, end of story. You ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE IL2 1946 INSTALLED AND PATCHED TO 4.08 IN ORDER TO GET THE UNIFIED INSTALLER TO WORK!!!!!!

In fact I did a fresh install and applied the unified installer and it didn't work, because I had forgotten to install the 4.08m patch.


Brain32, you are correct that we are guilty of throwing all anti-mod people in with the mods=cheat crowd, and for that I apologize. I've said before that I understand and respect the position of those who have thought it out honestly and still don't want to partake. It's the ones who spread flames, BS, and lies and do it loudly and with much venom that I rail against.

But to suggest that there was no cheating before the mods is ridiculous, I know you've been around for some time, I'm familiar with your handle, you should know better, there have been cheaters since the original il2. There has always been the suspicion of cheating as well, anytime I was on teamspeak with a group of people (way before the mods) and there was a person or a group of pilots that came in and started owning the whole server everyone in there would scream "cheat!" and start speculating about how they are cheating. Actual cheating and the suspicion of cheating are nothing new in this sim, it's always been there. Perhaps suspicion is up slightly but the actual cheating hasn't increased as far as I can tell.

What's funny about all this talk about cheating its not as wide spread as some of you would like to believe. The guys that have been able to get past simple server settings don't last long and are booted. In addition this sim for the most part appeals to older guys which aren't into cheating. The young ones are the trouble makers and are usually dispatched as soon as they are found.

The good news is there are several guys in the mod groups that are working hard on making sure cheats aren't spread or encouraged.

[flyingbullseye]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

And i've been told that thier new unified installer....does not require that you 1st have the game installed.

Again how does that work without the sim?

[kristorf]

Originally Posted by 311thCopperhead

And i've been told that thier new unified installer....does not require that you 1st have the game installed.

unfounded....no i don't think so.

I've been the earth is flat, do I believe it or do I check for myself before spreading rumours????

How can you post some of your comments mate if you believe in hearsay and don't know facts, dodgy grounds for an arguement

[flyingbullseye]

I finally bought/upgraded to 1946 a month ago just for the mods, otherwise I had no reason to upgrade. Cost me $15 on amazon.com. I'm sure I'm not alone in this. What then have I stole? Nothing. I don't have the code, don't want it. All I have now are improved sounds, clouds, effects, cockpits and a few aircraft that as far as I can tell don't fly any diferent than the stock counterparts. I have yet to see any FM or DM mods, though what I do see at the site are new aircraft that the mod devs are putting a lot of time into getting it historically correct in most or all of its aspects within limits to the sim. The claim that people don't buy it anymore is made out of pure ignorance. Curious though, I wonder how this argument would be going if Oleg gave the community all the mod tools himself and said have fun.

Flyingbullseye