Colors

[Jaws2002]

Beside the fact that your new look has way to strong red hue, that doesn't fix anything. That's just a filter thrown over everything. Just like puting on your sun glasses and saying the color of the world changed.

[philip.ed]

Jaws, I honestly think that CloD has a green filter to it though. I use the FXAA mod with the colour 'tweaks', and increasing the red a bit has made a world of difference. It looks great at sunrise and sunsets (the colours are incredible) and even during the day it brings out the browns a bit more. The look is more autumnal, but then again the English terrain has look like that since the colours were changed.

[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by mcFly

Maybe this shows how much darker reality is compared to Clod. Mist looks quite alike.

You can't be serious trying to proof your statement with a photo. What exposure was used? Any filter? Was photos hoped? I can show you hundreds of photos with a lot more light than CoD. Real life has a lot more light than a normal photo can depict.

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by Ailantd

You can't be serious trying to proof your statement with a photo. What exposure was used? Any filter? Was photos hoped? I can show you hundreds of photos with a lot more light than CoD. Real life has a lot more light than a normal photo can depict.

The picture is from a game no?

[mcFly]

What else as a photo could i present to you. As you can see it's from the not yet released Orbx England scenery.
But i do have a lot of stuff from Orbx, and i can assure you it looks exactly like on the photos when flying in FSX.
Orbx is very famous for their sense for reality.

[RedToo]

All I can add to this discussion is that to me the Orbx pic looks right and Clod looks wrong. But then this has been said for a very long time.

RedToo.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Jaws, I honestly think that CloD has a green filter to it though. I use the FXAA mod with the colour 'tweaks', and increasing the red a bit has made a world of difference. It looks great at sunrise and sunsets (the colours are incredible) and even during the day it brings out the browns a bit more. The look is more autumnal, but then again the English terrain has look like that since the colours were changed.

From what I see on this droid 3, your second screenshot has way too much Magenta/Red.

What I'm trying to say is that we are talking about a speciffic colors of a certain region, during a certain season, while affected by certain speciffic weather effects.
You shouldn't try to fix this speciffic look with changes to the general lighting engine.

You change ground textures to that map to match the season, you add weather effects like clouds, haze mist, and your lighting engineshould give you the exact look you need, without affecting how your other maps look.
This is where the developpers messed up after clod was released. The original lighting engine was almost perfect. It was tuned by Oleg, who is a proffessional photographer and it showed. No other game had the general lighting rules so refined.
The changes that came after tried to fix local speciffic looks with changes to the general lighting engine and they messed up everything.
That tropical map we have shouldn't look like the southern England during a crappy day. Yet it does.
The problem now is that they will make the new maps for BOM, with the lighting set up for southern England and will mess up the colors even more.
The best solution would be to go back to the original lighting, and adjust local textures and weather to match the region.

[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by Anders_And

The picture is from a game no?

So it´s not even a photo, and you are using it as proof of what? Then don´t say this is image more real, but this is more like this or that game, wich I like more.
But CoD is ( or at least it was ) about depict real colors as you see it in real life, not as they are seen in photos, games or films. All this discussion already messed the wonderfull original colors. If you want to play a film, please adjust your monitor settings to desaturate it. I don´t want to play a film, there are already a lot of film looking games out there, if not all of them.

[Ailantd]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

From what I see on this droid 3, your second screenshot has way too much Magenta/Red.

What I'm trying to say is that we are talking about a speciffic colors of a certain region, during a certain season, while affected by certain speciffic weather effects.
You shouldn't try to fix this speciffic look with changes to the general lighting engine.

You change ground textures to that map to match the season, you add weather effects like clouds, haze mist, and your lighting engineshould give you the exact look you need, without affecting how your other maps look.
This is where the developpers messed up after clod was released. The original lighting engine was almost perfect. It was tuned by Oleg, who is a proffessional photographer and it showed. No other game had the general lighting rules so refined.
The changes that came after tried to fix local speciffic looks with changes to the general lighting engine and they messed up everything.
That tropical map we have shouldn't look like the southern England during a crappy day. Yet it does.
The problem now is that they will make the new maps for BOM, with the lighting set up for southern England and will mess up the colors even more.
The best solution would be to go back to the original lighting, and adjust local textures and weather to match the region.

+1000
You know what you are talking about.

[Anders_And]

Originally Posted by mcFly

What else as a photo i could present to you. As you can see it's from the not yet released Orbx England scenery.
But i do have a lot of stuff from Orbx, and i can assure you it looks exactly like on the photos when flying in FSX.
Orbx is very famous for their sense for reality.

I agree with you MCfly!!! We meed these colours in CLOD!