Beating a dead horse

[1.APU_Hubal]

Il2 Sturmovik is the best, but it is not a masterpiece.
It is not just graphics what do we expect.

But all expectations are a piece of s... if there is not any SoW any more.

"Now news is a bad news" - the media credo!

Originally Posted by crazyivan1970

Well, Oleg is not one of those people who will stop development without letting community know, be sure.

true, but admit, thers no such developer who cant find 5 mins to write ONE post about development in 2-3 months....and what about PR guy? 1C PR guy, is he there? he should find 5 mins to post something...theyr not serious if they dont have a PR guy...or whoever to post updates here...Oleg got us with IL2, yes....but we are "horny bride" and hes "lucky" that (for now) he dont have a real competition...

[Thunderbolt56]

1:C's PR has been non extant for the last year in general. BoB is still progressing. I'd tell you more, but then CrazyIvan's SMERSH goons would have me...er...brought in.

In the meantime, finish that last level of COD4, buy a PS3 (I just got one and am having a blast with the silly thing), go to the beach and look at scantily clad women and wait.

Originally Posted by mondo

Oleg doesn't post here any more because he gets the same reception that he used to get in ORR. Doesn't suprise me and I don't blame him.

How do you know that Oleg fails to post here because some people have made comments about the very poor communication from Oleg and crew, has he told you this or are you just perhaps making it up?

[crazyivan1970]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

true, but admit, thers no such developer who cant find 5 mins to write ONE post about development in 2-3 months....and what about PR guy? 1C PR guy, is he there? he should find 5 mins to post something...theyr not serious if they dont have a PR guy...or whoever to post updates here...Oleg got us with IL2, yes....but we are "horny bride" and hes "lucky" that (for now) he dont have a real competition...

Once again... what we had with IL2 was truly unique, but you are forgetting most important part, such dialog between developers and community is only possible with participation and blessing from the publishers. No developer under obligations of the contract will step forward and start advertising his product... I am afraid this is the one part that is missing.

Other thoughts...IL2 took 4 years to develop, before initial release, maybe more then that.... I think it started in 1997 and saw the day light in 2001. SOW is by far more complex and advanced in all areas, things that use to take couple of weeks, now take several months...You cannot really compare the two. Bottom line is, Nobody in the know (and i said that before) ever gave you any concrete ETA for SOW. There were speculations and some rather silly anouncements, but nothing more. Oleg did say that they are trying to meet some dates, but he never said that he will. And once again, let the console game go already, has nothing to do with Maddox. 1c licensed out IL2 engine and other team completed it, yea Oleg tried it, gave them his opinion and that`s that. Why you folks keep bringing that up? How many times it needs to be said...those are not SOW objects, it is not MG work... i mean, come on!!

[Mango]

CrazyIvan, it's like going to church every Sunday. We need to hear you preach the good word and reassurances about SoW, even though we've heard it all before.

[crazyivan1970]

I just dont want people to get ideas that everything died, Mango. I will ask for an update, no promises tho..

[Skarphol]

This reminds me of the lyrics of an old 10cc-song: "Communication is the problem to your answer.."
All of these more or less camouflaged whining-threads would be gone in a flash if Oleg or someone in the 'know' would drop by and post a few lines a little more often!
Luthiers post from Olegs home in early june was good enough for most of us.

But on the other hand, without the whining-threads this forum would be very inactive..


Skarphol

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by proton45

OK enough silly stuff...I have an idea that might get lost in the depths of my meandering, but why doesn't someone start a nice dignified and democratic petition. We could start a petition in which we demonstrate how many of us would like to see regular visits from the development team. Wouldn't it be great to get regular little notes from Oleg, the modelers, de-buggers, artists, ect...(I know, I know...its been said)

It would be a lot more productive starting a petition then ranting, stomping around and storming off into the sunset... we might not get an official answer, and it might not do any good...but the numbers could make a solid statement.

The only problem with idea is everyone including Oleg knows the outcome of the petition. We all want more updates! As Ivan, Oleg, and Luthier have said its more complicated than just popping in here a giving us an hour of their time. I'm sure there is more than one reason and none of them entail just wanting to piss us off.

[Anton Yudintsev]

Originally Posted by Skarphol

I'm not worried about Birds of Prey taking resources from Storm of War as BOP is developed by another developer.

Guys!
I am a little bit tired telling one same thing over and over again.
There is no content from SoW neither from Il-2 in Birds of Prey game.
NO. ANY. CONTENT.