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Old 10-01-2012, 05:10 PM
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Old 10-01-2012, 05:49 PM
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Wilco!

So in summary..

Thus far..

NO ONE has been able to come up with one valid 'broken promise' (where valid = doing step 1 and step 2 of the challange)

Strange when you stop and consider how many references are made to 'broken promises' on a daliy bases in this forum..

You would think someone could provide one!

I mean if it was true.. And there were dozens upon dozens of 'broken promises' than it should be a simple mater to list at least one if not a half dozen

But I digress!

All in all thanks for proving my point! S!
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Old 10-01-2012, 06:36 PM
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All in all thanks for proving my point! S!

"Tell him what he's won Bob!"

The same faulty broken game as before he started his "promise" wasn't used campaign. I don't see why Ace gets so hung up on the word "promise". They showed videos of things used to entice people of features that "possibly" might be in the game.

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The game sold two and half copies in the last month and had 74 returns

.....We released a faulty game.
The dev has admitted to everyone their disappointment with the game and apologized for it. No need for you to whitewash and try to cover for Luthier anymore Ace, that cat's out of the bag.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:08 PM
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I don't see why Ace gets so hung up on the word "promise".
I am hung up on the word?

Don't confuse me repeating what you and yours say as an indicator or proof of me being hung up on a word

I am simply repeating what you and yours are saying on a daily bases..

As for luither admiting this or that..

Note I never said he didn't

My only point you and yours are missing is that there are not as many broken promises as you think there are

Hope that helps! S!

PS I noted that you didn't offer up an examples of a 'broke promise' either
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:41 PM
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I am hung up on the word?

Don't confuse me repeating what you and yours say as an indicator or proof of me being hung up on a word

I am simply repeating what you and yours are saying on a daily bases..

As for luither admiting this or that..

Note I never said he didn't

My only point you and yours are missing is that there are not as many broken promises as you think there are

Hope that helps! S!

PS I noted that you didn't offer up an examples of a 'broke promise' either
Oh my...Ace just loves shooting from the hip on a daily basis. Just like he put his foot in his mouth at the beginning of this thread with OP...comical!

You keep saying "you and yours". I would challenge you to find a post where I said the dev broke a "promise"...but I can save you some time. I think it would be very hard to find a dev that actually used the word "promise" in the history of video game developement. But releasing a promo vid and showing videos of things that were meant to be in the game was "misleading".

Not that I don't mind being a victim of Ace's hip shooting...it's just getting old. He kind of reminds me of a ship still firing it's guns as it is sinking under the water. The devs admitted COD will not be fixed to even their expectations and is over and done. Kinda sad that Ace just doesn't let it go. It's probably evident since he doesn't post any cool screenshots, talk about interesting missions he flew, or lead by some sort of example by actually playing the game.....posting here is all he's got.
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Wilco!

So in summary..

Thus far..

NO ONE has been able to come up with one valid 'broken promise' (where valid = doing step 1 and step 2 of the challange)

Strange when you stop and consider how many references are made to 'broken promises' on a daliy bases in this forum..

You would think someone could provide one!

I mean if it was true.. And there were dozens upon dozens of 'broken promises' than it should be a simple mater to list at least one if not a half dozen

But I digress!

All in all thanks for proving my point! S!
I agree....people would have a valid argument for using a "Promise" for features listed on the BOX cover, or official release website, but there are few of those listed. The vast majority of the posts that proclaim broken promises in the forums were never made by the developer. The developer has stated that this is a WIP and features would be added as game and system resources allowed thru the life of the series.

The developer has just now made the sim playable with minimal features working, and it will be sometime before we see all the features working as we would hope. COD for obvious reasons hasn't been financially successful enough to support further work, but the good news is the investors still seem to be willing to support the series at least until the Sequels release.

The standalone COD is almost dead, but the Channel map should live on with "promised" feature improvements and additions by the devs and community through the life of the Sequels, "IF" the next Sequel is successful enough to help support further development. There is still a chance we will eventually see a much improved IL-2 1946 on the new game engine.
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I agree....people would have a valid argument for using a "Promise" for features listed on the BOX cover, or official release website, but there are few of those listed. The vast majority of the posts that proclaim broken promises in the forums were never made by the developer. The developer has stated that this is a WIP and features would be added as game and system resources allowed thru the life of the series.
Wheuuu..

Thank you Chivas!

For a moment there I thought I said something wrong..

But based on the fact that you get it..

Tells me those who don't get it..

Just don't and won't or choose not to get it!

S!
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Ace-of-Aces can you read this thread and add your name to the list. You just wind people up, maybe you get your kicks by doing this, but its is getting really tedious. You have your opinion, fair enough, but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.

Please for the love of god wind your neck in.

I won't be responding to any response from you, this is just a sincere plea to you to stop being so antagonistic and turning every thread you enter into a tiresome squabble.

Please.
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Ace-of-Aces can you read this thread and add your name to the list. You just wind people up, maybe you get your kicks by doing this, but its is getting really tedious. You have your opinion, fair enough, but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.

Please for the love of god wind your neck in.

I won't be responding to any response from you, this is just a sincere plea to you to stop being so antagonistic and turning every thread you enter into a tiresome squabble.

Please.
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You just wind people up, maybe you get your kicks by doing this, but its is getting really tedious.
I should point out that the only people getting upset are the ones that take is personal when their long held beliefs are challenged

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You have your opinion, fair enough, but your opinion is no more valid than anyone else's.
Opinion?

Actually the fact that no one was able to provide ONE example of a broken promise should show that this is not an opinion

Which is not to say there are no broken promises!

Only that this inability shows there are no where near as many broken promises as some would have us belive!

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Please for the love of god wind your neck in.
Wind my neck?

Sorry, you lost me there

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I won't be responding to any response from you, this is just a sincere plea to you to stop being so antagonistic and turning every thread you enter into a tiresome squabble.

Please.
No worries!

As I noted in my post to Chivas

There is no need in continuing to try and show people something they are unwilling to see (closed minds remain closed)

So, I have no more to say on this, unless you and yours feel the need to comment on it further

But I will end it with this..

I called it from the get go! i.e.

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In the mean time..

Take note of how many people will take issue with what I just said, and resort to attacking me personally over taking up the challenge..

Why?

Well because some here are very vested in the idea that there is a long list of broken promises, and anyone that tries to take this away from them will be attacked (kill the messenger).. The good news is all those that do only expose themselves and their true agendas
Hate it when I am right!
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