Answers to Community Questions

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by luthier

Thank you, wonderful analogy. This is exactly how I feel.

I see no reason to be polite to people who are going out of their way to be rude to me.

The game sold two and half copies in the last month and had 74 returns (I just pulled those numbers out of thin air by the way). Honestly, if I just replied witha picture of me mooning and flipping off the questions thread, the net result would be pretty much the same.

The situation sucks. I see no reason to sugarcoat it with bull. I don't want to go make empty promises or try to prove that black is white. We released a faulty game. We did more than even seemed possible to fix its faults and add improvements, but in the end it was not enough. There has to come a point where we begin to focus on the future, and Cliffs of Dover just becomes something we can all learn from.

I am sincerely very sorry we didn't do enough to keep you guys happy. Everyone in the team feels exactly the same way.

Thanks for the honest answers Luthier, and for covering the questions about the map.

Can I say regarding the bolded bit from your quote above that I disagree somewhat. For sure some here will be hostile no matter what you do. Others, myself included, sometimes feel that poor communication needlessly creates antagonism - eg the delay in providing answers to these questions. A simple post on the forum saying they were delayed but upcoming would have been enough to smooth things over until they were ready.

Some of us who want to be supportive feel that the (lack of) communication here is sometimes more damaging than the issues with the game.

If that could be improved i think people would feel more involved and on your side.

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Regarding your reply about tree collision only being possible on maps with small numbers of trees! Is this not a reason to review the use of Speedtree in the COD series in favour of an alternative that can be made to work more effectively?

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by kendo65

Some of us who want to be supportive feel that the (lack of) communication here is sometimes more damaging than the issues with the game.

If that could be improved i think people would feel more involved and on your side.

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Very, very good point.

[MadBlaster]

Here is a very sad video on the story of the Kee Bird. For those who need "closure".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxbipBu7Cdc

[banned]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Here is a very sad video on the story of the Kee Bird. For those who need "closure".

Wow. Thanks for posting that mate. How devastated would you be. I couldn't believe the ending.
I appreciate the relevance too mate. Just hope it's not as dramatic.

[hiro]

Thanks for answering the questions.


but dude (Ilya) some of those answers made me think for a second that all the negative nayswers were correct with some of the unprofessional (official business to business conduct).

And I was pissed man. But then I saw the second posting, and looking back, you're trying to be funny and also you're coming from a perspective of you're tired of all the bashing you've received and all the rampant speculation that's worse than every sewing circle and gossip columnist in history.


Also the answers to the patch fixes, it seems to me that there is so much on the patch that's promised, it may be too much to be actually done. Too big to deliver.

But since you know more about whats going on that us here on the forum (and me), I'll take it up on hope that all you stated in the patch will be said and done.





There is some hope the following means CoD will be fixed and I like the hope for community SDK tools to come later, so the 3rd party support can take up the mantle of making Clod better.

Originally Posted by luthier

The only reason we ever did anything with the game, starting as far back as about last May, was for forum brownie points. It was clear enough even then that any additional fixes won’t pay the bills, that the only way for us to survive financially is to release a good sequel, fix any issues with Cliffs of Dover while making the sequel, and grandfather CoD content into it.

Aircraft – as I wrote previously, they won’t be abandoned with the upcoming final patch. We are carrying everything over to the sequel, and they will get the same attention as new sequel aircraft and definitely benefit from our future efforts.

So its going to be similar to IL-2 but also the model will change . . . as they are not exactly following the IL-2 . . .




I think alot of the "attitude" Luthier has is that he's confident the sequel will fulfill most of the expectations we've had for the IL-2 successor series.

Also the man himself backed up what csThor was saying, and also that working on the game is primary and speaking with the forum is tertiary or quaternary . . .


I can understand the frustration and its a let down. Don't get me wrong, my initial impression was one of being upset.

But I remember you are putting all in the sequel and you did take the time to fix the sequel as much as your resources will allow.


It's funny, as the answers would only lead to more answers and also that the community would get what they want (the answers) and still gripe about it.

One of the points of hilarity was the SU 26 let down, but now that its out, someone was complaining about the SU 26 with lasers and not fixing Clod all the way.

Well . . . life goes on.



I think and hope that the sequel working and being a great game will help things.


Remember folks, history can change, with enough effort, focus, drive, and will. And doing what is right and good.

If you look back at the Americans at the start of WW 2 in the pacific, prior to Midway . . . you'd think they couldn't win.

That's what I'm hoping. Yes this series is the laughingstock of the gaming world. Yes it brings beast PCs to their knees. Yes they could have had it working, and had lot more content and features. But remember, yes they did fix it what they could. And yes the sequel is promised to be opposite of CoD's bad release . . .

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

Here is a very sad video on the story of the Kee Bird. For those who need "closure".

sad, I was so bummed out ( I saw it when I was in highschool) . . . and couldn't tell no one that would really understand because the nerds were all into fantasy or sci fi, and the closest was the racer or car guys, but they didn't even get much since they knew about cars and not planes.

but that story isn't 100% accurate for this game . . . nor although we've the end of the road, still i can't let go . . . Because the sequel will come out and whats fixed there can aid in Cod, and tools for 3rd party improvements for Cod will be coming . . .

[planespotter]

People need a Russian culture adapter here. Luthiers responses were FUNNY. Russian humour. Give him a break!

Here is another Russian joke...

"Russian Quality Control"

[Feathered_IV]

Not much room for jokes here. For luthier it's just a job. He can always get another one. But for us, where will we ever get another WWII flight sim from?

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

But for us, where will we ever get another WWII flight sim from?

Straight from 1C, once they release BoM?

[Feathered_IV]

Quote:
The single player experience in Cliffs of Dover has been roundly criticized as being decidedly below standard. Can you tell us specifically in what ways you think it is lacking, and explain what you intend to do to improve it?

"First of all, I disagree with it being “below standard”. Your definition of single-player standard is probably different from mine. If you expect Mass Effect or Skyrim, you’re barking up the wrong tree."

I am most certainly Not looking for Mass Effect or Skyrim. That is absurd. I am however looking for effective AI, working comms, AI crew members that behave and interact realistically - navigators who navigate, bomb aimers who aim, plus some sense of what it is to run and maintain a squadron when between missions. Please think about it.

[Ctrl E]

Thanks Luthier. Do not expect to get my money in the future.

Good bye.