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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 09-14-2012, 01:27 PM
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Glad you find it funny, but I suspect because of the awful mess that is CLOD and the amount of time it has taken to still not fix it, and the missing features and the dumbing down of graphics, the poor netcode, the lack of coop's, poor campaign's, the broken GUI in single player etc etc, that the sales of the sequel will reflect what I consider to be rather shoddy treatment from the dev's. If you consider the above to be good for business then you are deluded.
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:23 PM
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No matter how hard they try they just can't get you to leave.
Give it a rest
Shame you and a few others who bow at the feet of the developers didn't do likewise.
You have it in writing from Luthier himself that Clod is effectively finished and they are working on the sequel yet you still have to have a go at Tree
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:26 PM
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Give it a rest
Shame you and a few others who bow at the feet of the developers didn't do likewise.
You have it in writing from Luthier himself that Clod is effectively finished and they are working on the sequel yet you still have to have a go at Tree
If it's all over, why are you still here?
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:29 PM
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Old 09-14-2012, 02:30 PM
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If it's all over, why are you still here?
Because i have as much right to voice my opinions on this farce as a paying customer as you have to preach your views through rose coloured glasses.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:29 PM
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Look Tree ... when luthier's bosses put down their foot and demand a resource switch to something that may bring fresh revenue as opposed to something that doesn't he is not in the position to refuse. Unless you're your own boss you are in a similar state of dependence to those who pay your wages.

For the people who make such decisions at 1C the question of longetivity of a gaming genre or a certain branch of software is of secondary importance (it may be nice but only to bind customers and perhaps generate more money). If the sequel is another dud and fails to generate income they will simply move on to other projects and either reassign Maddox Games to something that's potentially profitable (like some shooter spin-off for the brain-dead) or close MG as a department for good. 1C isn't going to die because Il-2 CloD hasn't been up to specs, it's just a financial loss - nothing more. These suits don't really care about what customers of past titles think, they look for return of their investments and if anyone who has already paid is unhappy then it's too bad for that person. Don't you watch real life news and know what business is like?
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:35 PM
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:51 PM
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hope you will offer refunds if the last patch turns to be not enough to make it a fully working product..
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:44 PM
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i have to say that i'm very disappointed.

The game was released and sold as a product while it was just a half a product. Few patches released did not rise it to the product it should be.

Now, to get a product i all ready payed for i need to buy more?

that's maybe called business in Russia but in the rest of the world that's called fraud.
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Old 09-14-2012, 01:39 PM
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Glad you find it funny, but I suspect because of the awful mess that is CLOD and the amount of time it has taken to still not fix it, and the missing features and the dumbing down of graphics, the poor netcode, the lack of coop's, poor campaign's, the broken GUI in single player etc etc, that the sales of the sequel will reflect what I consider to be rather shoddy treatment from the dev's. If you consider the above to be good for business then you are deluded.
Not good for business, but beats out of business.

I think the sales of the sequel will mostly reflect that they go back to the Eastern front, cater the home market, which is what made Il-2 successful in the first place. If they get it right that time, all the trouble with CloD won't matter much. Commercially. And that's why luthier has no options but to meet the deadlines.
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