SHOOTING at the OLYMPICS

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by tk471138

what if i choose to NOT have health care as someone in my mid twenties and probably 10x healthier than most americans (i dont drink soda, i dont eat any fast food, i make my own food out of my own ingrediants, not processed premade foods. i dont drink alcohol in excess, and im physically active)

Then you will be asking for donations like the Colorado shooting victims and/or having the hospitals write off the $100,000s of expenses.

[BaronBonBaron]

0:46 is the last couple pages of this thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvv60...0&feature=plcp

[JG4_Helofly]

Very interesting discussion. Didn't know that political topics where allowed in this forum.

Bewolf wrote something very important imo: "And that is positive, why....? Most people here come out of an attack with a broken nose at best. Hardly with bullet holes. But then again, even the criminals here know they do not have to expect a gun when they enter a house, and in return do not feel the need to bring their own. Result...lots of people actually getting old, both victims and criminals, both having chances to actually tell stories to their grandchildren. "

The main problem I see with firearmes is escalation. That's what Bewolf wrote. When stuff like "home defense" with guns is common, then criminals will prepare for that and bring their own.
As a Swiss, I am always amazed how scared americans seem to be. Over here, I know not a single person who feels threatened to a point where he would feel the need for a gun in order to defend himself. The governement is also not seen as a threat.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

You are way the hell out of line with that comment. What kind of monster would even post that shit?

I haven't got a clue why he has not been banned yet.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by JG4_Helofly

Very interesting discussion. Didn't know that political topics where allowed in this forum.

Bewolf wrote something very important imo: "And that is positive, why....? Most people here come out of an attack with a broken nose at best. Hardly with bullet holes. But then again, even the criminals here know they do not have to expect a gun when they enter a house, and in return do not feel the need to bring their own. Result...lots of people actually getting old, both victims and criminals, both having chances to actually tell stories to their grandchildren. "

The main problem I see with firearmes is escalation. That's what Bewolf wrote. When stuff like "home defense" with guns is common, then criminals will prepare for that and bring their own.
As a Swiss, I am always amazed how scared americans seem to be. Over here, I know not a single person who feels threatened to a point where he would feel the need for a gun in order to defend himself. The governement is also not seen as a threat.

Americans just don't get it. Don't even try to convince them, this thread has proven that they don't want to listen and learn from others, because they believe that their truth is the only true one. So sad...

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by tk471138

what if i choose to NOT have health care as someone in my mid twenties and probably 10x healthier than most americans (i dont drink soda, i dont eat any fast food, i make my own food out of my own ingrediants, not processed premade foods. i dont drink alcohol in excess, and im physically active)

You see in America what is seen as "asserting your rights as an individual" is in most of the rest of the world seen as being a selfish arrogant pr*ck who does not contribute to society, and is out to get whatever they can get for themselves with no concern for the welfare of others.

Australia has had basic centralized health care for over 40 years and even the extreme right wing "big business is good, climate-change denying, White Australia, shoot illegal immigrants on sight" side of politics are not considering getting rid of it.

These discussions are pointless because the American world view is quite distorted and there is no common ground to even start a discussion. These sort of threads can only devolve into name calling and insults and really should be locked from the start.

[arthursmedley]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

These discussions are pointless because the American world view is quite distorted and there is no common ground to even start a discussion. These sort of threads can only devolve into name calling and insults and really should be locked from the start.

Oh come on Galway. Of course you're right but wheres your sense of humour?
These threads are always great for a laugh.




You've got to laugh otherwise you realise your staring into the pit..........


In other news I see Mitt Romney has been winning friends and influencing people where ever he goes this week.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Americans just don't get it...

Um, no. There are plenty of rational Americans - but not here. They just have more sense than to spend their time telling the rest of the world why everything and everyone except them is wrong about everything, about how America is number one in absolutely everything, and about how there are black helicopters in the water supply and fluoride-smugglers infiltrating the DAR (though I may have got confused with the last bit).

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Um, no. There are plenty of rational Americans - but not here. They just have more sense than to spend their time telling the rest of the world why everything and everyone except them is wrong about everything, about how America is number one in absolutely everything, and about how there are black helicopters in the water supply and fluoride-smugglers infiltrating the DAR (though I may have got confused with the last bit).

I do realize that, while at the same instance pitting the fact that they are obviously in the minority.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by arthursmedley

Oh come on Galway. Of course you're right but wheres your sense of humour?
These threads are always great for a laugh.




You've got to laugh otherwise you realise your staring into the pit..........


In other news I see Mitt Romney has been winning friends and influencing people where ever he goes this week.

Well, seeing him sit all alone with his wife in the Aquatic center, waving a lonely American flag, was a pittyful sight indeed

Thank god Michelle Obama knows how to have a good time and be a pleasent guess at such a venue.