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Old 05-05-2012, 12:47 AM
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Default Ju-87 B dive attack tutorial

My second the movie. Now its an Angriff Stuka (dive attack).



HD version: http://youtu.be/OBXihUf6pFQ?hd=1

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Old 05-05-2012, 02:39 PM
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Great movie. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 05-28-2012, 11:16 PM
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Nice - very informative and atmospheric.

Thanks a lot!
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:21 PM
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It is a nice movie, but it is incorrect in some places, i. e. "Sturzflug" instead of "Sturzangriff" (Dive instead of Dive attack)

1st, you did not trim the plane properly for the cruise to the targets, the ball wasn't centered.

2nd, there exists a "Stuka Mantra", describing all the steps necessary for a successful dive attack, which were:

1. Throttle back, proppitch to coarse
2. Charger from auto to ground
3. If not done already: arm bombs, set release altitude
4. open dive brake
5. trim to neutral (all axis)
6. close radiator's
7. do not exceed 85° dive angle (control with a look to the left, compare lines with the horizon)
8. aim and hold aim until release (correct aiming point regarding the dive angle)

after the automatic recovering:

a. retract dive brakes
b. throttle up, do not exceed 1.2 ata and 2150 rpm's at all times
c. open rads as needed
d. trim
e. fly home
3rd, the Stuka has no "Reihenwurfgerät" (serial drop unit), this belongs to the bigger twin engined bombers.

4th, 2000m for a dive attack is gaming the game, in RL altitude was very important to stay out of the light aaa and to give time to aim properly or even to change target, when the previous wave did already hit your intended target.

5th, the fuse used was wrong for dive attacks (Tiefangriffszünder (low level attack fuse) instead Sturzangriffszünder (Dive attack fuse)

6th, the wing over attack was only show for the movies, normally the target was approached in level flight and when it just had passed the bottom window the nose was pushed down until the target appeared in the sights, this way there was no danger of becoming disoriented and one had more time for aiming.

Sorry for critisizing so much, but with this corrections and in black and white, it could be a original movie.
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:27 PM
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Default JU87 Dive Bomb Notes

Hello,

I know it is not too cool to dig up old threads. However, after a search on the web regarding JU87 dive-bombing in CLoD the only info of any relevance were Robtek's notes in this thread, and the brief notes in the manual.

I made up a page with some of my findings on CLoD JU87 dive-bombing in case anyone else was looking. Nothing exhaustive, just a few ideas. Hope they maybe of some use.

http://www.raafsquad.com/cliffs/ju87/ju87divebomb.htm
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:36 PM
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Hello,

I know it is not too cool to dig up old threads. However, after a search on the web regarding JU87 dive-bombing in CLoD the only info of any relevance were Robtek's notes in this thread, and the brief notes in the manual.

I made up a page with some of my findings on CLoD JU87 dive-bombing in case anyone else was looking. Nothing exhaustive, just a few ideas. Hope they maybe of some use.

http://www.raafsquad.com/cliffs/ju87/ju87divebomb.htm
Nice tutorial too. Thx!
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:00 PM
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It is a nice movie, but it is incorrect in some places, i. e. "Sturzflug" instead of "Sturzangriff" (Dive instead of Dive attack)

...

6th, the wing over attack was only show for the movies, normally the target was approached in level flight and when it just had passed the bottom window the nose was pushed down until the target appeared in the sights, this way there was no danger of becoming disoriented and one had more time for aiming.

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The maneuver described (nose over/push rather than Wing over) is confirmed in one of the many video interview clips at the
Heinzmigeod Website. Heinz was a Stuka pilot who passed away shortly after the series of interviews were completed in 2010.
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