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07-30-2012, 04:28 AM
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1) you are a homo 2) you are a female 3) you are alien poeple visiting from another planet cuz, that statement...like a "kick me" sign on your back. |
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07-30-2012, 04:55 AM
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your joking madblaster right? , since when being a "homo" or a "female" is something bad or a type of insult?
the argument of weapons as a defence of the goverment abuses is bs in my opinion, anyone uses their weapons to figth against the massive robbery of the bailouts or the corrupt regulators that rape the dollar? if anyone do that they would be "silenced" in a second, named as terrorist and would won a vacation to the paradisiac beaches of guantanamo. as they say earlier a rifle dont do sht against giant spying institutions , smart bombs and uavs. just to make a shitty comparisson , in my country 40 years ago there was a military goverment, of course some tried to resist with rifles. today human rigths organizations are searching for theirs bones.. and my country military and intelligence agencies have no comparisson to the most militarized state of the world |
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07-30-2012, 05:11 AM
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And the idea is that EVERYONE would rise against such a threat.
As I said, single armed persons are pointless. But when the populace of a nation as a whole are trained and armed very few governments could withstand their assault. Your people were an example of this: accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed A few brave patriots cant do much, but when the population is galvanized change is not just possible but inevitable. Now open question here, what fault can you find in this statement? Seems to be something all can agree on yes? Is this not a reasonable statement? Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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07-30-2012, 05:27 AM
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yes, it was little joke. I try to take the cheap shot and offend people whenever I can. its my nature. born street fighter.
You have to remember, our country, USA, was founded on revolution and freedom. Guns, the willingness to fight or die for freedom, this is fundamental. No one supporting gun ownership is saying an armed citizenry will prevent corruption in business or government. It does not make a perfect world. What 2nd amendment is saying is that the people come first. The government is subordinate to the people. And the only way to enforce the people over the government in the final tally is to allow the people to have guns. It's a high stakes poker game for last 200+ years since the founding of the country. It also doesn't guarantee success. Democracy is messy. I fear the people may becomes so apathetic from all the government entitlements, free porn, video games and media circus that they forget why we have the 2nd amendment or why citizens should have guns. So they see this joker dude slaughter bunch of people tv and then have knee jerk reaction for gun control. This debate has been going on for decades and decades too. |
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07-30-2012, 09:09 AM
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USA gun laws are similar to Canada and other countries but the USA has a far higher gun murder rate. This would suggest that the problem lies with the people or the society in wich they live rather then the laws.
I find it amazing listening to the pro gun arguments. The attitude that gun restrictions are an afront to civil liberties to me sounds like utter madness. It's usually the same people that claim that universal healthcare is an attack on civil liberty! madness! The only other countries that have high gun ownership and death rate are places in the developing world that suffer from high poverty and very corrupt or non existant government like somalia, afghanistan and south Africa. USA is interesting as it's a developed country and should have moved on by now but in some ways it hasn't. Personally i think that lack of robust health and welfare infastructure and the huge wealth gap may have something to do with it. For a rich country it's still very much dog eat dog. Personally I would not want to live in a country where everyone felt the need to own firearms. |
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07-30-2012, 09:27 AM
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07-30-2012, 09:35 AM
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Should we ban kitchen knives too?
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