Huricane Mk I 100 Octane perormance tests 1.07.18301

[Robo.]

Now when we're discussing the fuel again. And again.

Are the Hurricanes modelled correctly in this game?

[klem]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

?? I dunno just from a fuel aspect.

my .02 is that we just give ALL the planes the best Octane available have 100 Octane Me-109's, Spits etc. etc.

then nobody can complain

No, it has to be historical

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by klem

No, it has to be historical

Well, E-4's with the DB601N engine running on C3 fuel would be historical. AFAIK the first ones appeared in very small numbers as early as July of 1940. It would be up to the mission designers (as it is now) to ensure the right aircraft are appearing in the right scenario.

If memory serves, though, there were only a handful of E-4/N aircraft made, so I'm sure there are better areas to spend development time and resources.

[Al Schlageter]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Well, E-4's with the DB601N engine running on C3 fuel would be historical. AFAIK the first ones appeared in very small numbers as early as July of 1940. It would be up to the mission designers (as it is now) to ensure the right aircraft are appearing in the right scenario.

If memory serves, though, there were only a handful of E-4/N aircraft made, so I'm sure there are better areas to spend development time and resources.

What would be more historical would be Bf110s using the DB601N engine.

3 Gruppe of Bf110s and 1 Gruppe of Bf109s (12% of all Bf109s)

From what I have read many of the Bf109s had their DB601N engines swapped out and replaced with DB601A engines.

[TomcatViP]

Originally Posted by Al Schlageter

What would be more historical would be Bf110s using the DB601N engine.

3 Gruppe of Bf110s and 1 Gruppe of Bf109s (12% of all Bf109s)

From what I have read many of the Bf109s had their DB601N engines swapped out and replaced with DB601A engines.

yes. I have this somewhere in mem. I even hve the idea tht the the DB/N fitted to 109 was for the experimental jabo gruppe (the one that had to finish his training dropping bomb in UK).

Same for the MkII. I alrdy gave somewhere the date of first production model and history of nbr 7 that is preserved in RAF museum. A quick ggl search will give the reader the exact answer.

Yesterday I also posted a link to a good copy of the MkII manual (edited in june/ published in july with boost details).

That they were both those rare bird in the sky over the channel, I think yes. That there presence reflect fact and history ? No. Just like saying that all 109 were fitted with an ashtray because we know one that is famous.

EoA for me

[Al Schlageter]

wrong a/c so deleted

[TomcatViP]

And delivered to combat unit ?

Might be good to paste in the right thread. This one is for the Hurri

[klem]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Well, E-4's with the DB601N engine running on C3 fuel would be historical. AFAIK the first ones appeared in very small numbers as early as July of 1940. It would be up to the mission designers (as it is now) to ensure the right aircraft are appearing in the right scenario.

If memory serves, though, there were only a handful of E-4/N aircraft made, so I'm sure there are better areas to spend development time and resources.

I think I read sowehere that only about 35 'N' engines were in 109s during the BoB, not that I want to start another of 'those' arguments.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by klem

I think I read sowehere that only about 35 'N' engines were in 109s during the BoB, not that I want to start another of 'those' arguments.

I think that's about right, hence my statement about prioritizing development resources. In a perfect world we'd be able to have all the little subtypes but I'd rather they get the mainstays in good shape first.

Speaking of which, do we know if we'll be getting a Hurri MkII with the Merlin XX, or if it arrived early enough in 1940 to be considered a BoB participant?

I found an ORBAT for Fighter Command but it doesn't list variants.

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

I think that's about right, hence my statement about prioritizing development resources. In a perfect world we'd be able to have all the little subtypes but I'd rather they get the mainstays in good shape first.

Speaking of which, do we know if we'll be getting a Hurri MkII with the Merlin XX, or if it arrived early enough in 1940 to be considered a BoB participant?

I found an ORBAT for Fighter Command but it doesn't list variants.

I'm pretty sure it just missed BoB.