IL2: Forgotten

Golf Pro · #1 06-21-2008, 09:26 PM

"request", "wish" - well if you like to play semantics, then it's a reasonable wish

If providing us with the corrected maps involves additional work for the 3rd party developers and Oleg, then yes I agree it would be unreasonable. As I don't *think* (but don't *know* - maybe you could advise?) it would do, then why not provide them?

I'm not looking for a "free lunch". All I'm looking for is the correct versions of things that have already been provided so that I can confidently use them.

The lunch is there. Give me a knife and fork.

robtek · #2 06-21-2008, 10:00 PM

@golf pro

i can´t help it, for me you are appearing as demanding.
we can hope to get the final patch but we have no rights to expect anything given from om.
What have you done that you can demand the fork and the knife?

Golf Pro · #3 06-21-2008, 10:43 PM

Robtek - I would not really say that I'm "demanding", "requesting" or "wishing". I suppose what I'm doing is "suggesting" in the form of a "request". Yes I may appear to be "demanding" to you, and you appear to be being "arrogantly dismissive" to me. I'm sure that's not what either of us is *actually* doing, as we are communicating by the imperfect world of the internet, where subtlety is generally lost in translation.

Of course OM is inundated with hungry mouths, and whenever a request is made, whatever it's merits, it is just seen as another hungry mouth. This has become a kind of ritual where everybody makes requests as though theirs is the most important idea on Earth, then there's a knee-jerk assertive snapping back from OM's protectors regardless of the merit of the idea. This is the process we are both engaged in now.

I think whether my suggestion to release the updated maps is "reasonable" or "unreasonable" depends upon whether it would entail extra work for Oleg & Co. If it does I will accept this as being the case and not mention it again. If it doesn't then my suggestion would give many members of the community (especially mission builders) the opportunity to use these maps to the benefit of themselves and the rest of the community.

I see this as being more of technical question than one of "rights" and "demands". If it is easily achieved then I would *suggest* that whoever is responsible for the updated maps (don't think it's Oleg, actually) should at least consider their release via another beta patch. They can decide "yea" or "nay" accordingly. However I would *at least* like them to consider it.

C6_Krasno · #4 06-22-2008, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Golf Pro

I think whether my suggestion to release the updated maps is "reasonable" or "unreasonable" depends upon whether it would entail extra work for Oleg & Co. If it does I will accept this as being the case and not mention it again. If it doesn't then my suggestion would give many members of the community (especially mission builders) the opportunity to use these maps to the benefit of themselves and the rest of the community.

Oleg said that they had no room for 4.09, I understand that there is extra work to do, that this work will be done when they can, and that they are at the moment too busy to do it.

Kernalklink · #5 06-24-2008, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by robtek

@golf pro

i can´t help it, for me you are appearing as demanding.
we can hope to get the final patch but we have no rights to expect anything given from om.
What have you done that you can demand the fork and the knife?

Robtek What have you done that you can speak for Oleg? Who are you? On the IL2 team? Havok, you are a bigger whiner than anyone else. Bow to Oleg! He will wreak his disdain on you mortals if you complain! Some one raises a point and you hens have to cackle.

Beowulf · #6 06-24-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kernalklink

Robtek What have you done that you can speak for Oleg? Who are you? On the IL2 team? Havok, you are a bigger whiner than anyone else. Bow to Oleg! He will wreak his disdain on you mortals if you complain! Some one raises a point and you hens have to cackle.

+1

robtek · #7 06-24-2008, 02:10 PM

@kernalklink & beowulf

Of course i dont speak for oleg, i state My opinion, afaik thats what a forum is for, isn´t it?
And of course i am not surprised to get flamed from people who always demand more and more.
btw did i whine " give me the final patch, give me the next to final patch, give me... give me... give me..."???
I dont think so.
expect nothing and you wont be disappointed.