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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-20-2012, 03:27 PM
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but a word from you would go a long way in lifting our spirits and calming the waters.
No, it won't. It will just start another complainathon.
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:38 PM
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No, it won't. It will just start another complainathon.

So true, that's why I and many others only browse here now and rarely post anything
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:53 PM
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So true, that's why I and many others only browse here now and rarely post anything
No other reasons for rarley posting then? Surely there must been tons of positive and interesting CloD experiences to post about.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:26 PM
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No, it won't. It will just start another complainathon.
Agreed 100%

More detail only means more detailed whinning!

That is to say, giving us more detail will not fix the problem any sooner!

Mater of fact it could delay it due to the devs taking time out to fully described to us the bug they found.. and are in the process of fixxing.

Worst yet, more detail gives the 'professional' whiners here more opportunities to 'spin' what the devs said, such that the 'professional' whiners can than call the devs liars when something does not pan out 'exactly' the way the devs said/hoped it would.
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Old 04-20-2012, 04:59 PM
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Agreed 100%

More detail only means more detailed whinning!

That is to say, giving us more detail will not fix the problem any sooner!

Mater of fact it could delay it due to the devs taking time out to fully described to us the bug they found.. and are in the process of fixxing.

Worst yet, more detail gives the 'professional' whiners here more opportunities to 'spin' what the devs said, such that the 'professional' whiners can than call the devs liars when something does not pan out 'exactly' the way the devs said/hoped it would.
Professional? I'm intrigued. Do explain more AoA...

All I see are armchair observers (each with different opinions). One might call yourself a 'professional' whiner where Il-2 FM debates are concerned (for instance the great UP vs HSFX 'issues').

Each person is different. Some enjoy the team to explain everything to them in order to prevent their own accusations of mismanagement, others are happy to take the team's word as gold. Each to their own I guess.

At this stage I agree, another update would be entirely pointless. Knowing the issue won't fix the issue. But it would, conversely, cut down the 'can we have an update' topics.

Incidentally, David may suggest it will stop a 'complainathon', but in reality complains left in isolation are merely a series of postings. The real trouble happens when the trolls step in, as was shown yesterday.

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Friday, oh crap it's friday already ... weekend!
Have a nice weekend everybody... and no bad dreams about CloD development mishaps, I see a bright future.
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All I see are armchair observers (each with different opinions).
Which speaks volumes IMHO

Now if you want to sit here and make excuses for the whinners who call the devs liars.. Be my guest!

But don't expect me or any other adults here to be swayed by your excueses for calling the devs liars

Let alone spend any time arguing with you as to the merrits of calling devs liars
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Old 04-20-2012, 05:29 PM
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>>No, it won't. It will just start another complainathon. <<

Priceless. You can't even reply without automatically disagreeing (do you have an app for this...the 'iDavid'?). Doubly priceless given the subject matter.

Oh boundless, boundless irony....
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:12 PM
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Which speaks volumes IMHO

Now if you want to sit here and make excuses for the whinners who call the devs liars.. Be my guest!

But don't expect me or any other adults here to be swayed by your excueses for calling the devs liars

Let alone spend any time arguing with you as to the merrits of calling devs liars
I don't condone calling them liars at all. You're being the child, in this instance, in suggesting that I do, or have called them such a thing.

The allusion that information was being withheld was only divulged when the argument got heated, instigated by careful and malicious trolling.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:18 PM
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Unfortunately Tree UK is a stranger to the truth.

From Tree UK
"Your in the clear though david, apparently and I got this from the Mod concerned, not one person as complained about you. So well done, it says a lot about how much you are liked and how honest our mods are".

This whole sentence is fabricated following a PM conversation.

Understanding why someone would keep lying and misinforming other forum members to gain some higher form here is beyond me.


Lets hope we can have some threads now without the constant bickering.





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