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I concede that the accident rate will have risen towards the end of the war in 44/45 when only badly trained youths were litterally thrown into the air against the bomber flows but we're talking here about the early stages (BoB). It does not say anything about the 109 being intrinsically dangerous, simply tricky. If the 109 would have been so inherently dangerous during take-off and landing it would have been it from the start throughout all stages of the war. If it would have been that dangerous the armament ministry would have done something about it and be it requesting some modifications to the 109 design (for instance increasing the tail surface could have been a countermeasure). Nothing in that direction was ever undertaken indicating clearly that there was no importance attributed to take-off / landing difficulties thus indicating that the problems were not so significant to justify any modifications. If the accidant rate increased towards the end of the war it can only be attributed to the training level of the average pilot not to the plane itself. Again (repeating again): It was surely not easy to take off and one may discuss if it is too easy in game but I do think that this bad reputation of the 109 being dangerous to take-off and land is unjustified and a modern myth. |
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Well then crow, it looks like we're singing from the same hymn sheet.
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The spit had similar wheel distance but it had parallel landing struts, and that made it much more forgiving. On the top of it during take off there was the huge torque from the engine, what tried to roll the aircraft at slow speeds (so exactly what had to be avoided considering the pointing outwards wheels). If you put the two problems together then you know why it required such a great attention to handle the 109 during take off. Of course it was not magic, but it required full attention and no mistakes. Cheers MM |
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If you read the reports from finnish pilots you'll find that they didn't find the 109 difficult at all.
Maybe because they, against their training by the germans, kept the tail on the ground as long as possible, keeping the longitudal stability this way until the airstream on the rudder made it effective. Same with the landings, as long as you made 3-pointers there was no problem, they said, and of course lock the tail wheel, but this came with the later 109's.
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#635
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I read the Finnish pilots were horrified when the saw fresh German pilots landing on 2 wheels. The Finns always practised 3 pointers.
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Maybe that the Finnish pilots were over-modelled?
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Hhaha - will I need more than 4 cores?
Glad to hear of the Blenheim fix - thought it was just me! (-£ 250 later for new HOTAS and throttle quadrants) |
#638
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The question is simple : When will be this patch released ?
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I'd say not today, tomorrow more likely but 2 weeks be sure.
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