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Old 01-22-2012, 05:15 PM
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So, um, what are you supposed to do with the P 51 in DCS?
Pay them money for it.

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It has no purpose.
To generate as much money with as little time and effort wasted as possible.

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It has no ability in the modern combat space other than to look pretty.
They're hoping that people don't think too long about that and instead say, "OH MY GOD! P-51 with super realism! Must have!"

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I just don't understand it in the context of the rest of that sim.
Making an aircraft is time consuming, but just as time consuming is making missions, campaigns, and enemies for it to shoot down and blow up. This is just a "treat" for people who want a historical prop plane to tool around in.

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Help a luddite out here.
A2A made a lot of really awesome combat aircraft for FSX. The problem is that you can only fly it around for so long before people get ticked off that they can't do any combat with their combat aircraft. DCS is hoping to get some of those disenfranchised people who dropped money on A2A aircraft to drop money on this, with the vague promise they can shoot and bomb stuff with it. Don't expect to see 109's for it to shoot down, this was a proof of concept that they decided could help them pay the bills until their next modern combat aircraft add-on is done.
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:47 PM
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So, um, what are you supposed to do with the P 51 in DCS?

It has no purpose.

It has no ability in the modern combat space other than to look pretty.

I just don't understand it in the context of the rest of that sim.

Help a luddite out here.
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The P-51D will be the first aircraft in the Flying Legends series that focuses on historical aircraft that have set benchmarks in combat aviation
So until the make more.. I guess only hardcore P51 guys will buy it.. Or maybe they can make a mission where they attack a 3rd world S hole that has P51s as thier main airforce!
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:53 PM
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Over reaction and simplification running a muck in this thread. Hasn't the mantra been here support the product and good things happen? Why should it be any different with another sim until proven otherwise? As Ace said this is supposed to be but the beginning.
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Old 01-22-2012, 05:58 PM
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Exactly. I will for sure get the Flying Legends planes as released. DCS is the benchmark in combat sims, modern that is, bar none. Falcon is excellent too. Really do not see the reason to muck DCS for making these planes. As said before..if they model with the same fidelity as A10C etc. it will be a joy to operate them.
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:00 PM
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Over reaction and simplification running a muck in this thread. Hasn't the mantra been here support the product and good things happen? Why should it be any different with another sim until proven otherwise? As Ace said this is supposed to be but the beginning.
Were all for supporting the genre, not sure how trashing COD and promoting every other sim is going to help here though.
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:16 PM
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as much as i could be interested in this, the DCS world is not really a WW2 scenario, and as people said before, whats there too shoot at?

im sorry, but if i wanted this product i would go for the acusim p51 ( i think there is one).
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:19 PM
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Were all for supporting the genre, not sure how trashing COD and promoting every other sim is going to help here though.
I don't think I've said anything in this thread trashing CoD. As to promoting other sims, I agree with the other posters about competition being good. We all get complacent and need a push sometimes. If Luthier and his people feel that market share might slip away due to another product then I assume they're savvy enough to up the ante with their own.
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:19 PM
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im sorry, but if i wanted this product i would go for the acusim p51 ( i think there is one).
and what do u shoot there?
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:20 PM
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and what do u shoot there?
nothing. waht i said was precisely that. if i wanted a simulator to fly the plane with no actual combat, i would buy accusim p51.
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Old 01-22-2012, 06:31 PM
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nothing. waht i said was precisely that. if i wanted a simulator to fly the plane with no actual combat, i would buy accusim p51.
But at least you have the option to shoot stuff in the DCS version..

Granted it might require you to think out of the box a little.. But I know for a fact there are dogfight servers in HL where both sides have the same planes, thus you will see P51 vs P51 senarions in those IL2 df servers..

So what is so crasy about DCS server with two sides and only P51s to fly?

That and I can remember back 20 years or so when Chuck Yeager's Air Combat (CYAC) came out where you could pit WWI, WWII, KOREA and moden planes against each other. It was a hoot!



Or like I allready mentioned.. what about a strike force of say 5 F-15s attacking a 3rd world S hole with an airforce of 30 old P51s.. I think that would be fun for funs sake!
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