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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: When will the next beta patch be released?
thursday!!! 1 0.74%
this friday 18 13.24%
during next week 15 11.03%
during the week after the next week 12 8.82%
in three weeks 9 6.62%
after a month 12 8.82%
two months 2 1.47%
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:14 PM
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I am a bit at a loss by those that think that the Russian Front expansion will somehow stop repairing the broken aspects of CloD.

The code for both is the same, hence repairing it for one fixes it for the other. Why is this hard to come to grips with?

Also the 3D modeling staff is getting paid to make models, not write code, so it is the most effiecient use of their time to work on the expansion.

This is a reasonable way to allocate resources is it not?
Agreed, Luthier and team have said they are making CloD patch so I see no problem with their team doing more than one thing at a time...
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Old 12-20-2011, 06:26 PM
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I am a bit at a loss by those that think that the Russian Front expansion will somehow stop repairing the broken aspects of CloD.

The code for both is the same, hence repairing it for one fixes it for the other. Why is this hard to come to grips with?

Also the 3D modeling staff is getting paid to make models, not write code, so it is the most effiecient use of their time to work on the expansion.

This is a reasonable way to allocate resources is it not?
Don't try to introduce logic into the discussion.
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Old 12-20-2011, 07:36 PM
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I am a bit at a loss by those that think that the Russian Front expansion will somehow stop repairing the broken aspects of CloD.

The code for both is the same, hence repairing it for one fixes it for the other. Why is this hard to come to grips with?
Well.. it is hard because just prior to the announcement Luthier stated they were completely re-doing the 3D Graphics and Sound..

So..

There is a slight chance that re-do code may not get applied to CoD if they decide to go full speed on the sequel! Which I would not have any issues with by the way!

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Also the 3D modeling staff is getting paid to make models, not write code,
That is a very good point! On that note, since most 3D graphics are done using 3rd party software (3DMax, etc) format it would be easy to port all the 3D work done in CoD (externals and cockpits) over to the new and improved (re-done) 3D Graphics

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so it is the most efficient use of their time to work on the expansion. This is a reasonable way to allocate resources is it not?
Exactly.. Because your graphics/artiest typically don't write code, and visa versa.. Typically!
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Old 12-20-2011, 08:14 PM
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i am a bit at a loss by those that think that the russian front expansion will somehow stop repairing the broken aspects of clod.

The code for both is the same, hence repairing it for one fixes it for the other. Why is this hard to come to grips with?

Also the 3d modeling staff is getting paid to make models, not write code, so it is the most effiecient use of their time to work on the expansion.

This is a reasonable way to allocate resources is it not?
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:47 PM
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I am a bit at a loss by those that think that the Russian Front expansion will somehow stop repairing the broken aspects of CloD.

The code for both is the same, hence repairing it for one fixes it for the other. Why is this hard to come to grips with?

Also the 3D modeling staff is getting paid to make models, not write code, so it is the most effiecient use of their time to work on the expansion.

This is a reasonable way to allocate resources is it not?
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Agreed, Luthier and team have said they are making CloD patch so I see no problem with their team doing more than one thing at a time...


I thought Battle for Moscow was a hired third party project? Did I miss something?
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:58 PM
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:23 PM
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That is a very good point! On that note, since most 3D graphics are done using 3rd party software (3DMax, etc) format it would be easy to port all the 3D work done in CoD (externals and cockpits) over to the new and improved (re-done) 3D Graphics

I have to agree with this. CloD is really just an engine with a load of data plugged in. Some data describes the elevation of the terrain and the placement of textures upon it, some the objects, some the flight model parameters etc. etc.

The static objects will almost certainly be portable straight into the new product as they are simply a bunch of vertices and texture coordinates. Same with the terrain too - the data may need the odd tweak to support a new feature or two but there should be no reason why we couldn't have terrain and objects running under the new engine in very little time.

Then there are the aircraft....many of which will be needed in the Moscow campaign so every effort will be made to ensure these work with the new engine.

That leaves the other dynamic objects such as tanks and field guns etc. Again, most of these I'd say were built for the Russian campaign anyway so I expect full support for all the objects we currently see in CloD.

Now, what do we have left to worry about? Clouds, trees, water, sounds....they're all the same whatever the theatre.

I'm a programmer so know a little about how these things are put together. Personally I have absolutely no concerns that CloD will be left out in the cold when the Moscow product comes along. There may be some delays and bugs but in the end we will have what we want. Plus, with the release of the SDK the community will be able to start filling the gaps and making improvments to the maps and objects.

I really wouldn't worry about this. Keep those negative waves at bay guys.
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Old 12-20-2011, 11:37 PM
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Impressively example for why they avoid this forum.

Yeah such a bad thing from the community from actually wanting and loving the patches made from the dev. This is a forum. It is text and colors. If any person actually gets their feelings hurt or decides to "avoid" this forum because of what other people are typing, something is wrong with you.
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:56 AM
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Where are all these week-long, on-going 128 player battles I've heard so much about? Those sound like fun.
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:26 AM
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Four years of college, three years of Law School..15 years of practicing law and I get dinged here for not using proper grammer and punctuation? Good grief Charlie Brown, all I want to know is how to make this game I bought playable, I had no idea we were being graded on grammer/sentence structure and content.
Please...cut me a little slack, Ihave had two bilateral corneal transplants for Keratakonis and one eye in rejection..I also have Tourettes Syndrome since I was 5 and type the BEST I CAN, if that's sub par..then please...kick me off your forum! I surely dont come here to be insulted by ANYONE let alone a MODERATOR for my bad punctuation.
If you want to edit my Post...please do so...that is your perogative, but do you have to insult my bad grammer as a RANT? That is really pushing things to far, and you really ought to think twice before AS A MODERATOR making such snide comments, are you not here to be above such things? I would expect such behavior and comments from a 12 year old..but not from an individual who is supposed to be here as a "official" or "semiofficial" representative of a global corporation. Why don't you show a little more class.
If you don't like the content of my posts, then just say so, I'm certainly not here to be a cheerleader for this game. I come to seek advice as to how to play it better, when patches will be available, etc.
I do not have the ability to spell check every word here, and I certainly was not under the assumption I was writing a doctoral thesis or a law school exam.
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If you dont like the "content" of my posts, then its your call to simply remove me from your forum. I suppose without it, my life will be in ruin, I won't sleep a wink at night, and my pc will probably crash, in short, the sun shall never rise again...good god, do you think your the only game in town?

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