Gunsight 109 propositions

[TomcatViP]

A wild guess : they were concerned with glass front panel drag. They were looking on a way to minimize its size. By relocating the visor close to where it was needed (the leading pilot eye) they could reduce the size of the visor hence the size of the front glass panel.

Moreover, the right handed pilot could use his shoulder blocked on the cockpit wall to maintain his head position during a dogfight. Relocating the visor on one side would hence become natural in a cramped cockpit.

[robtek]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

A wild guess : they were concerned with glass front panel drag. They were looking on a way to minimize its size. By relocating the visor close to where it was needed (the leading pilot eye) they could reduce the size of the visor hence the size of the front glass panel.

Moreover, the right handed pilot could use his shoulder blocked on the cockpit wall to maintain his head position during a dogfight. Relocating the visor on one side would hence become natural in a cramped cockpit.

That would also be a strong point for favoring cramped cockpits, always being able to stabilize your body during hard maneuvring.

And afaik the revi was offset to give as much unobstructed view as possible.

[fiendlittlewing]

The TIR and the German sight force one to have posture discipline. I find it an enjoyable challenge.

I agree that gunsight view is crap; I don't use it. Improvement could be made either by causing the gunsight view transition to be nearly instant, or by ditching the animation and keeping TIR functional during the transition. I would prefer the later option.

I don't know if I'd use the gunsight view even if it were improved. I prefer to lean forward. Even if I must also lean to the side a little. I would also point out that the revi pipper is a fairly predictable geometric shape. You only need to observe small parts of it to get a sense of where to aim. During deflection shooting the gun-sight is a mere suggestion anyway.

My motto is 'fly hard; shoot easy'.

[5./JG27.Farber]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

Quite frankly there are many many more things in the sim that I'd like to see fixed before anyone begins fiddling with the revi.

If you take the time to get used to fighting with TIR in the 109 you get used to it. I personally don't have any trouble using it in a dogfight. Line your head up with the sight as you're maneuvering for the shot. If you wait until the last possible second then obviously it won't work well..

I agree.

[trumps]

I am totally happy with the way the sight operates as is, it is easy enough to Center your view to the sight if that is how you fly, or lean to it, what ever.
Many more important issues to deal to still.

Craig

[TomcatViP]

For us that stick to POV (you know that ugly button on top of your stick) it's really difficult.

I can't mix large FoV view with gunsight and leaning frwd take time (no prob for me) but make contact to be lost. Highly frustrating
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When we had all the dynamic head mvmt activated that was not such a prob.

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by TomcatViP

For us that stick to POV (you know that ugly button on top of your stick) it's really difficult.

I can't mix large FoV view with gunsight and leaning frwd take time (no prob for me) but make contact to be lost. Highly frustrating
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When we had all the dynamic head mvmt activated that was not such a prob.

Mr.X seems to have no trouble at all using the POV Hat switch. Check out his videos; he uses the snap view and is a way better shot than I am.

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

I do understand how a revi works. But I think you did not understand what I was trying to say.

If the revi as seen by the pilot when aiming would be offset - that's what you suggest - the gun convergence would need to be offset too. All that I have seen in terms of how gun convergence was set for the 109 suggest that the gun convergence was on the centre line and not offset. This is a strong indication that for the pilot the revi sight was in the centre and not offset.

Please see here:

Does anyone have a similar chart for Spitfire or Hurri by chance?