Spit IIa

[Crumpp]

The premise of the discussion was NOT flying in Hard Buffet at all ! but on the very first indication i.e. The "Buzz" or the "Nibble" or the "Burble" ... what ever you want to call it.

Why do you think I disagree with you?

Yes the correct technique to achieve maximum rate of turn performance without FBW is to fly to the first indication of flow separation and back off to the point just before that flow detaches.

Tell me this, does CoD model the effects of the stick shaker zone or does maximum rate of turn performance occur at 2D CLmax?

[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by Crumpp

Yes the correct technique to achieve maximum rate of turn performance without FBW is to fly to the first indication of flow separation and back off to the point just before that flow detaches.

I imagine this is what the RAF pilots were taught, however I could easily see less-educated pilots or perhaps pilots who didn't grasp (or weren't taught) the physics misinterpreting as "fly in the buffet zone".

Tell me this, does CoD model the effects of the stick shaker zone or does maximum rate of turn performance occur at 2D CLmax?

We haven't done a lot of testing yet as our flight models are still somewhat out of whack (see flamefests re: Spit Mk 2) and are due to be changed in the next patch.

If I were to hazard a guess it would be that buffeting does not decrease the turn rate, and is merely a cosmetic effect applied to the player's screen/speakers to warn of impending accelerated stalls.