Who has the best IL-2 Online Server?

JG6_Express · #1 01-19-2008, 03:44 PM

Raven, very unsportsman like behavior.
This thread was simply a question by an individual as to recommendations of Full Real servers in HL. Having read thru this entire post I think you missed the intent and instead proceeded to proclaim yours is THE best and others were less than. On top of that you proceeded to bash, critisize, and personally attack one of the best servers in HL, aka spits vs 109s, aka warbirds servers.

Raven, you have a good server and skins that are top notch. You provide your time/money/creativity/skills/servers to the community and for that you are to be commended. However, as Crash stated, most who host servers are NOT in competition with anyone else.

I have flown in HyperLobby since IL2 first came out. I have seen many servers come and go. Every single one of them deserves respect just for the fact of the great time/effort/and money that it takes to manage and implement them for the benefit of the pilots who fly there.

I read your piece on spits vs 109's and it was an uncalled for attack against one of the best servers in HL. Your opinions about spits vs 109s were false, misleading, and just plain rude. If you have a personal issue with an individual then hash it out over comm's. Coming in here and publically talking trash about an individual and Server provider does nothing but alienate you from those you are trying to gain.

Building up and praising your own server while degrading someone else's is just a personality issue that you will have to deal with. Humilty is an excellent trait to develope and nuture.

Word of advice. Praise your server all you want to but refrain from negative comments of others. You will have much better success in this community.

With that said, I enjoy all of the servers that have been talked about in here. I have made donations to most of them throughout the years and will continue to do so. They all provide something to the masses and without them, this game would have died off along time ago.

~S~

Petrosky · #2 01-19-2008, 04:29 PM

You trying to keep flame going?

JG6_Express Rav.
said nothing on his server he only spoke
of another server he thinks better that spitsv109s.

We all know how much work goes into running a server
(most regulars do) we like you have been here since IL2

Tact might have been used better, all Rav. was trying to
say is that Spitsv109s has changed alot in the last 6-7 months
and some think not for the better.
We all have flown there and it was great times.
for what ever reasons it has changed lower framerates and lag
than on same type servers. This is not a bash just my observations
over the months We like you enjoyed the server and would like to
see it back to what we enjoyed in the past.
Again I an not attacking any server or Admin.
If i offended any I apologize (not my intention)

Petrosky

RaVe · #3 01-19-2008, 07:52 PM

Thanks for the in put JG6 I value your opinions as I do Crash's position .

Things are not what they used to be in online...

All the same I'm simply trying to raise the bar.
I know I have no influence but I like to try.Mostly I just make noise and a big mess.

Things are not what they used to be in online...The amount of fullswich servers is down and arcade is way up.

The way I see it the more we all push for more full real server options the better.

The more smooth and enjoyable a server is for the guy making the transition to full switch from arcade the more apt they will be to stick with it.

The more that portion of the community grows. The better for all of us that realize the immersion that full switch offers.

Many don't have a super computer to play this Sim. I know of several folks that must tune down there boxes just to play on Spits.

On other servers, maps and hardware are sensitive to this issue.

Please let me take this opportunity to try to move from the negative tone, THAT I STARTED and in to a positive direction.

Honestly I did not realize that spits had changed hands.
I only knew that I was having the same issues as I had always there.

I had previously posted my concerns there , nothing was done.

As a very active supporter with links on my web site's and financial contributions I was disappointed. I felt taken for granted as my donations were substantial.
I hope you can understand my point of view.

It was my folly not go back into the WoP forums and brush up on the ownership and new management.
How would I know? I basically had written it off as a forum to contribue to,
No excuse All the same.

All I knew is that when I flew the server I still had the same issues even with the servers new system.
I Didn't know it was new till after the fact.

Both Crash and I though the other had there facts wrong. We both defended our Honor as any self-respecting person should.

I did start it . So the blame is on me. I did not take the time to think of the human factor.

All I saw was a server that seemed not to be moving forward, but backward. One that was not running check run time-2.
As every time I joined, I had sound M installed.
I just had hit it when crt-2 was off for testing apparently.

We both got defensive and tossed a few punches.
But after that I came out of it with a very good understanding of Crash and his drive to improve, and raise the bar for the future in his server.

I still stand behind my views that there is still need for improvement.
As well as WOW(<its not my server) is a very high quality server.
Perhaps some sharing of information between the two, if not already done, would benefit us all.

I also came out of it realizing that Crash is a refreshing change from the previous management.

I had given up on contacting posting feedback etc at WOP as it seemed to have fallen on deaf ears in the past.

I will return to the WOP forums and post any recommendations, thoughts, views , map making services, via the proper channels if they will allow it. I'm sure I'm not Mr popular over there

My tread was inflammatory and confrontational.
But effective in calling attention to the fact that there is always room for improvement.
I think spits could and will be great. Based on crashes passion it will be very soon.
Already the check runtime 2 is solidly in place. An excellent move. Also bit more tweekage on FPS tests on the maps could be very beneficial to all.

I could have been much more diplomatic and would have been, had I been up to date.
That would not have stirred up the pot nearly as much. I did not realize I was digging at the wrong guy.

My goal here is to at least try to raise the bar for a smooth full switch on line experience.
I think rattling the cage keeps folks form being lulled into complacency.

In any case as I like to say any advertising is good advertising and both servers benefited from the post if you think about it. As It called attention to both.

In any event to Crash I would like to personally apologize to you.
I was not fair,
I was ignorant to the fact that you had taken the rains.

I did get a bit heated up when you said I wasn't in the server since Nov. when I had been . I went into attack mode.

I hope we can put this behind us and move on in a positive direction united.

To JG6 I hear you and you make good points but just to be sure you understand I was not talking about my server I was talking about a completely different server than my silly little hole in the wall.

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