swastikas??

[Anatoly]

Originally Posted by weequayx

Well , great job on the game anyways, lotta people complain on the difficulty but I love it, very realistic.

Thanks for the understanding and for the support.
The idea with Death to Spies initially was to make it harder than other stealth actions, more realistic and closer to life. I think that this kind of approach will also gain its fans.

[OSS]

Originally Posted by weequayx

Well the creation of one would be great!

unofficial fan made pack already done ( return swatiakas and other german stuff) , check this forum for links:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/de...820&pid=933169

[redscare]

Originally Posted by OSS

unofficial fan made pack already done ( return swatiakas and other german stuff) , check this forum for links:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/de...820&pid=933169

I'll check it out when I get home. I too felt it was weird to have crosses instead of the real deal. I live in Spain and here swastikas per-se (not using them to propagate nazis ideals) are not illegal. It's only in Germany. I've played Return to Castle Wolfstein, the Commandos saga and many other games with swastikas in them.

[hykao]

I think that was a really bad censoring...This is a historical game, not a neonazi propaganda! All historical stuffs contain sometimes swastikas, Hitler photos etc. HOW WOULD LOOK ANY HISTORICAL DOCUMENTARY, BOOKS, MOVIES WITH FAKE SWASTIKAS AND FAKE HITLER PHOTOS ETC...???

Thereto the Soviet signs are also banned in many country! But I really don't want to see Semyon's hat without red star, or trainingfield's red banner without "reapinghook and hammer", or the Lubyanka office with fake Stalin photo...it would be very unhistorical and unauthentical...

So that was the reason, why i made that unofficial uncensored patch...

I hope the publishers (1C, Atari, Nobilis) will change their minds, and the English version of the next Death to Spies game (Death to Spies: Moment of the Truth - that's coming) will be UNCENSORED and more historical and authentical - like the developers will have made!

[Muchness]

The demo played very well, was gripping, even. But I wont buy the game unless they make a patch available to reinstate the NSDAP iconography which has a blanket ban self-imposed by the games publisher/distributor outside Russia.

It is absolutely ridiculous to have a game involving WWII german soldiers without NSDAP (Nazi) symbols. Not all Germans were Nazi's; most German soldiers were just forcibly conscripted patriots. Just as not all Soviet soldiers were communist! The part(ies) were not the people...it is only within the confines of a dictatorship where such censorious nonsense is applied.

Outside Germany I can buy any other PC game with Nazi symbolism...why not Death To Spies?

Ironically, I understand the game shows a picture, or pictures, of Stalin who was at least the equal to the mass murderer, Hitler.

Fascism aside, AFAIK, only Germany, which gave rise to National Socialism, bans public displays of NSDAP insignia. No other country in the world (except possibly France and Austria) is fascistic enough to ban these symbols publicly.

On these grounds I cannot see any justifiable reason for not making the game as historically accurate as possible by allowing the downloading of optional uncensored .vfs packages. Spoken Russian and German language, with or without subtitles, would be preferable too (such as found in Sniper Elite).

As I understand it I could buy the Russian and English versions of Death To Spies and exchange the vfs packages and play the game complete with Swastikas, etc. So the publishers/distributors (politically correct but inept) reasoning is idiotic.