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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 08-16-2011, 06:34 PM
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I am a little concerned that the reference haze we see in 2011 Europe is NOT the same as 1940. Pollution was not as great in 1940 as it is there today, don't make the mistake of looking out your window and thinking it was always this way..

If you want to see skies with less haze, perhaps come visit Australia
I've just re read Eino Luukkanen's (Finnish ww2 ace) book, in one chapter he write about their trip to Germany (they went there to pick up Bf109s to Finland). Anyways, heres my bad translation from book but you probably get the point: "...we can only use compass to navigate correctly, especially because usual central-european haze makes horizontal visibility worse".
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Old 08-17-2011, 03:49 AM
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When will they fix the aerials on the aircraft? I have a NVidia card and even in your screen shots the aircraft aerials are terrible. I love the game for the images you can capture. The screen shots look bad because the aerials are missing or jagged. When will this issue be resolved also will the haze effect be reversible. It doesn't seem like a fix to me rather a way of blocking out the bad graphics by fading the horizon.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:10 AM
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I've just re read Eino Luukkanen's (Finnish ww2 ace) book, in one chapter he write about their trip to Germany (they went there to pick up Bf109s to Finland). Anyways, heres my bad translation from book but you probably get the point: "...we can only use compass to navigate correctly, especially because usual central-european haze makes horizontal visibility worse".
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So to clarify that point, if you look out your window now should it be worse than 1940?? The original comment said "this looks so much better, looks like im looking out of my window"

Umm

Playing Devils Advocate I know, and I'm assuming the writer was referring to the new haze change, but the main point was do not reflect on what we have 'now' as evidence for accuracy for a 1940s sim build. That mistake gets made all too often, eg. a true 1940 coastline anyone??

If your touting 'accuracy' as one of you goals you gota be real careful what to refer to as more accurate or 'better'. It's real easy to pick holes in many arguments re graphical representation of accuracy for times past (as I have done), it's better to compare with data or images than today's atmosphere.

Which I can 'hope' is what they used.

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Old 08-17-2011, 10:20 AM
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So to clarify that point, if you look out your window now should it be worse than 1940?? The original comment said "this looks so much better, looks like im looking out of my window"

Umm

Playing Devils Advocate I know, and I'm assuming the writer was referring to the new haze change, but the main point was do not reflect on what we have 'now' as evidence for accuracy for a 1940s sim build. That mistake gets made all too often, eg. a true 1940 coastline anyone??

If your touting 'accuracy' as one of you goals you gota be real careful what to refer to as more accurate or 'better'. It's real easy to pick holes in many arguments re graphical representation of accuracy for times past (as I have done), it's better to compare with data or images than today's atmosphere.

Which I can 'hope' is what they used.

1920, zoom in to Folkestone and see Hawkinge Aerodrome to left of Hawkinge town:-
http://www.ponies.me.uk/maps/osmap.html

1940, Hawkinge Aerodrome not shown but its obvious where it is from the map above:-
http://www.npemap.org.uk/tiles/map.html#207,46,2
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I am a little concerned that the reference haze we see in 2011 Europe is NOT the same as 1940. Pollution was not as great in 1940 as it is there today, don't make the mistake of looking out your window and thinking it was always this way..

If you want to see skies with less haze, perhaps come visit Australia
Actually, pollution in London was at its worst well before the 60's...
There were smog alerts in the 50's that killed thousands, because of coal used extensively in England. Birds in the air and fish in the Tames were mostly gone since the 19th century. Now with strict anti-coal burning laws, the birds and the fish are back.

So its quite possible that the haze was worse then. Even in the summer, plants used a lot of coal in this uber-industrial time and place. There were smokestacks then that are gone now.

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Hey guys,

I've read through this topic and I cant find a recent update on the progress of any patch / fix for the issues the game is causing with some radeon cards. Like many others have reported, I have unplayable framerate stutter when flying over land or buildings, and my PC is reasonably high end.

Can anyone tell me when we can expect this problem to be patched?
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Seems Odd considering your rig...

Not sure about crossfire working as it should..what settings are you using?
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Hey guys,

I've read through this topic and I cant find a recent update on the progress of any patch / fix for the issues the game is causing with some radeon cards. Like many others have reported, I have unplayable framerate stutter when flying over land or buildings, and my PC is reasonably high end.

Can anyone tell me when we can expect this problem to be patched?
no, nobody can tell you. Well, somebody maybe can... but don't hold your breath for an answer

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