For my 40$.

[Theshark888]

I'll say it too..this release is a shambles and part of the whole reason why sims do not sell like they used to. If this would have been a "finished" product it would have sold well and been able to keep the genre alive. You have to know your limitations when starting a project such as this and have a very strict schedule and guidelines.
Trying to defend this game by calling it "only unfinished" is mind boggling to me and tells me the depths of expectations that this community has sunk to. The reason for the constant belly aching about the sim is because of the terrible condition of this sim. Don't knock the bearers of reality...sales will be bad because of the condition of the sim, not because of the whinings on some forum.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm gone until next month to see if any progress has been made

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Theshark888

I'll say it too..this release is a shambles and part of the whole reason why sims do not sell like they used to. If this would have been a "finished" product it would have sold well and been able to keep the genre alive. You have to know your limitations when starting a project such as this and have a very strict schedule and guidelines.
Trying to defend this game by calling it "only unfinished" is mind boggling to me and tells me the depths of expectations that this community has sunk to. The reason for the constant belly aching about the sim is because of the terrible condition of this sim. Don't knock the bearers of reality...sales will be bad because of the condition of the sim, not because of the whinings on some forum.
Sorry for the rant, but I'm gone until next month to see if any progress has been made

You just don't get it. The developer didn't the time to finish the game because the funding ran out. They either had to release the sim unfinished to generate the needed cash to finish it OR CANCEL IT ALTOGETHER.

Which would you prefer??????

[furbs]

Ok Chivas, i know where your coming from.

But at least agree with me in a PM, and stop telling me what i saw with my own eyes.

[robtek]

So, furbs,

you still think that you are right?

To be in shambles now it should have been orderly sometimes, it hasn't reached that point yet as it is still unfinished.

Ok, enough fishing for arguments. ;D ;D ;D

[furbs]

No robtek, its a shambles now, but i hope it becomes orderly some time soon.

Yes, im playing alot, ive never said i dont like COD or want it to become the best flight sim in the world.

The core sim is fantastic and has potential to become a true great, but its not...not yet.

Some of the ideas inside COD are genius but its put together badly and lets its self down.

I call it as i see it.

If they sort it, fix the crap stuff, then i will be the first to shout praise from the high heavens on here.

Originally Posted by Chivas

You just don't get it. The developer didn't the time to finish the game because the funding ran out. They either had to release the sim unfinished to generate the needed cash to finish it OR CANCEL IT ALTOGETHER.

Which would you prefer??????

There is nothing to suggest this happened.

[Caveman]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

There is nothing to suggest this happened.

??? Nothing except every day of the past year...

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

There is nothing to suggest this happened.

It couldn't be more obvious.

Originally Posted by Chivas

It couldn't be more obvious.

lol, I seem to remember me saying these exact words during development.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

There is nothing to suggest this happened.

Actually, it was Oleg who said they had to release back in November due to lack of funds. I remember it very well, because when the date slipped everyone was up in arms as usual, with many quoting a famous phrase at that time by Oleg as an answer to releasing in November: "i want and i need".

This suggests that they got an extra "lease of life" so to speak to work on it a bit more, hence the delay to the spring Russian and EU releases.

All i'm going to say is, imagine getting a November release and the reactions it would cause, if half an extra year of development wasn't enough to produce a finished sim and resulted in the current forum wars.

Many of the people who are upset now over the unfinished state of the sim where the same people who were going grumpy about missed release dates back then and it just goes to show one thing: the community often has conflicting wishes and some time getting their wish can be detrimental to their own long term enjoyment of the product. Just imagine what state the sim would have been back in November and getting that version for your $40.

This should tell everyone to take everything with a grain of salt and not rush to speculation right away, nor think that everyone of us is always right, all the time.

We've all been going "let us have it, bugs and all, we can't wait to try it" and when it happened we all went "oh, i said i would be happy to just try it on my PC, but i didn't think it would be in this state".

Come to think of it we all got what we wished for all along, a premature release so that we can look at the pretty planes on our own screen instead of via Oleg's screenshots every Friday like we did back during development (even though it happened due to lack of funds and not our own requests), but not all of us could take the consequences of our demands being fulfilled. It's as simple as that really and it shows us all that we can make mistakes and have done so in the very recent past

Most of us regulars in this forum knew what we were getting into all along (especially after the initial reports from the Russian release).

Like it or not, there are things beyond our immediate control and that won't change, it's the nature of life itself. Lighten up and go fly in the meantime