Micro-Stutters

[adonys]

I just have a thought looking over some old threads I've posted regarding IL2CoD settings & performance back when we were struggling with making the beast take-off a few months ago, after the russian and then european release.

I keep hearing people complaining about microstutters, some of them with systems similar, or close enough with mine, and I didn't understood why, as I am not experiencing them at all, and that while running everything maxed out.

Have a look at this IL2 BoB - settings (it was for IL2 BoB which is the russian version of CoD) thread, please.

Have you guys disabled your Windows 7 paging file? Because Windows is known for using the swap file even if it has tons of memory free, and this might lead to the microstutters you all are complaining about..

PS: be warned though, you need at least 8 GB of memory to can do this in Windows 7 and play IL2CoD at the same time.

PPS: please note that also using IL2CoD max settings is needed in order to get rid of them (most importantly the unlimited buildings setting).

[JG52Krupi]

What an earth, why am I on your fanboy list...

[furbs]

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[David198502]

windows paging file?

[adonys]

I've added a link about how can you modify it for your Windows 7.

[Bryan21cag]

I tried this just now and here were my findings.

I disabled the windows paging file and then rebooted.

reboot went fine and all seemed normal.

I started the game (with UBI splash screen disabled)

the game started normally and i entered the London sight seeing tour ( Graphic settings on maximum with 1776x1000 res)

after load screen things seemed normal but then when i started flying around a bit i started noticing big flashes and graphic instability as things were rendering in the distance. The micro stutters were still there and it seemed to me that they even became a bit worse, but it was tough to tell with all the other flashing and craziness going on in the distance.

I then intentionally crashed into the bridge and upon hitting escape the game exited to windows and then would not let me get back into the game and then locked up when i tried to end the program from the task manager.

I then set it the paging file back to the way it was and rebooted again.

restated the game and things were back to there normal micro stutter selves with good fps (same settings as above).

Thanks for the tip but for me this didn't seem to help

thanks again
cheers

[LoBiSoMeM]

Please:

- DON'T DISABLE WINDOWS 7 PAGING FILE!

My two cents... W7 isn't so stupid: W7 only use this to low priority data if lots of RAM are available...

[adonys]

Theoretically, yes. Practically, even if the virtual memory usage algorithms are improved compared with Vista or older Windows versions, Windows 7 is still paging things just because it wants to, even if there are tons of RAM available.

I have the paging file disabled for more than 3 months already, and I had no problem whatsoever with it (and this while playing very demanding games, like Metro 2033, or IL2 CoD and so on).

Beside disabling the paging file, I've also set IL2 to start with administrative rights, fullscreen, and disabled the Vsync, visual themes and desktop composition. And the Windows indexing service.

And I have no microstutters at all, while all the others are complaining about them.

[klem]

Originally Posted by adonys

Theoretically, yes. Practically, even if the virtual memory usage algorithms are improved compared with Vista or older Windows versions, Windows 7 is still paging things just because it wants to, even if there are tons of RAM available.

I have the paging file disabled for more than 3 months already, and I had no problem whatsoever with it (and this while playing very demanding games, like Metro 2033, or IL2 CoD and so on).

Beside disabling the paging file, I've also set IL2 to start with administrative rights, fullscreen, and disabled the Vsync, visual themes and desktop composition. And the Windows indexing service.

And I have no microstutters at all, while all the others are complaining about them.

Can you please expand on :-

Visual Theme. (I see, in right-click on Desktop, 'Personalise' which shows me My Themes (1) as an Unsaved Theme comprising my desktop background and an overlapping very simplified Window(?) image. I don't see 'disable'.

Desktop composition. (what's that?)

Windows indexing Service. (can't see that in Task Manager)

Is the Page File issue one of HDD read/write lag? If so how does an SSD perform and do I need to worry as I have one?

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by adonys

Theoretically, yes. Practically, even if the virtual memory usage algorithms are improved compared with Vista or older Windows versions, Windows 7 is still paging things just because it wants to, even if there are tons of RAM available.

http://lifehacker.com/5426041/unders...dnt-disable-it

Windows 7 don't "page things just because it wants to, even if there are tons of RAM available". W7 will use the HD to store data not used, not CloD Launcher.exe... And will not page like crazy when flying... W7 recognizes when a priority application will need lots of RAM (like CLoD) and will free memory to it, if isn't so much available.

No effect at all in gaming, except placebo effect and possible system instability. I tested in all games - included CloD: same performance with/without page file. The only thing that become faster is cycle between aplications... If some like to alt+tab like crazy, it's good to disable the infamous virtual memory

And with only 4GB of RAM CloD can't run without virtual memory in W7 if you load missions with lots of things. W7 is very good managing physical memory when it's needed regards performance: if you have lots of RAM to run CloD, W7 will use all it. And if you don't have, W7 will "clean it up" and will let you use the amount available to run it.

Don't blame virtual memory for microstutters.