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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-24-2011, 03:08 PM
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A development team that doesn't interact with the community....

....it's a true shame, above all the fact that no matter how often we tell them "hey, some of us can help with our competence for free", they simply don't care.
One thing is expecting for communication from the developers, other interacting with them, and other very different is that they accept the help of competent people.

In other past discussions like this, finally has arose that some competent veterans are particularly upset because they gave/offered help, and were ignored.

Some of these veterans, (not everyone, and I'd like to stress that IMO, clearly is not your case), have choosen to attack the developer/ game as much as possible.

This last ones are troublemakers, and is very easy for them to flame to forums with the idea of "we need more communication", because a lot of peaceful forum users will join gladly a thread, post or petition wrapped this way.

These users are so confrontated to other users that are fed up of the so called whines etc. , giving the appereance that we are a split community.

In fact, there are only a few troublemakers, and is those what we need urgently to receive attention from the mods if we want to keep this forum to continue as an attractive place for creativity, help and information.


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And please remember that I still really really hope to be wrong.
Exactly, and IMO that is why, despite not being satisfied with the interaction, you are not creating trouble and I am fine with your opinions, even when I dont share them.
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Old 07-24-2011, 04:19 PM
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Exactly, and IMO that is why, despite not being satisfied with the interaction, you are not creating trouble and I am fine with your opinions, even when I dont share them.
thank you LUD, it's good to see that more and more people understand my point. This witch hunt of the whiners, trolls and what not has become a hobby lately, and although there obviously are/were some, other people don't just complain, they just express their perplexity in front of a change of register that has become quite worrying.

The problem is the maturity of the people involved: if I was in an open IL-2 LAN event and heard two teenagers arguing over a silly matter, I would take the age into account and be less caustic or ignore them altogether, because I've been a teenager too and a very hot headed one; but in a forum, where you're just a nickname, everyone turns into a brash, full mouthed keyboard hero, which sometimes goes into very dangerous territories..

As mentioned somewhere else, I have been threatened by a delusional member of this forum, who I suppose has been banned, an (alleged) Australian police officer that started being offensive and threatened me, in pure "I'm the internet hero and I'll give you a good one" style. Now to think that this kind of people hang around armed normally is very worrying, but it gave me an idea of what distorted perspectives and behaviours people can get to in these places..

Anyway, sorry for the OT, let's keep on flying and hoping for good news soon..
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