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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-21-2011, 08:37 AM
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I am tired of this "it is awesome, 5 of 5, but this doesn't work, and that, and that and this over there, but hey it has the potential, to be a diamond".... Yes coal has also potential to be diamond...

Man, does it mean that awful sounds are there just to show us how big potential is "out there"? Are you saying that user unfriendly and ugly UI is there again for the same reason? What about FM? Is the bugs there also just to show the customers, how it should be perfect, if it would work?

It is just like a edit: messy car, you can start it up, after couple of hours messing around to just run few meters and kaboom, some strange noise over here and there, everything shaking, brakes are not working, transmission is tough - you know for real men only, ABS is not there at all, even producers said so, not talking about such feature like power steering... Producer is only saying we are working on it, but after couple of repairs it is still not working as it should, but still some other same damaged people says - oh, but look what a potential it has - it will be Bugatti Veyron in couple of months. Man, there is potential we will have working ABS like it is standardized in other cars too... We have to wait couple of months for power steering repair, but hey, it is still fun to drive in it...

Why that "mysterious" potential was not fulfilled on 1st release or US release? Maybe truth is that such car has NO potential.

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Old 07-21-2011, 08:41 AM
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Opitz I dissagree with your opinion that it has no potential. However on that issue we shall just have to wait and see.
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:46 AM
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There is the potential. But this potential is defined by the "customer" needs. It is market potential. So if anyone want to be precise talking about "potential", they have to say the complete truth and stop lying to themselves and other - they should say this: This game misses the potential, there is a lot of unfilled potential etc... A potential also can be, for example, to run this game in 3D technology with a special chip devices connected directly to your brain. It is always about what potential is fulfilled. Potential means "what is possible"... Sure many things are possible, many are not yet. But what is possible already today in other games, is not there. Why?

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Old 07-21-2011, 08:48 AM
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I am tired of this "it is awesome, 5 of 5, but this doesn't work, and that, and that and this over there, but hey it has the potential, to be a diamond".... Yes coal has also potential to be diamond...

Man, does it mean that awful sounds are there just to show us how big potential is "out there"? Are you saying that user unfriendly and ugly UI is there again for the same reason? What about FM? Is the bugs there also just to show the customers, how it should be perfect, if it would work?

It is just like a russian car, you can start it up, after couple of hours messing around to just run few meters and kaboom, some strange noise over here and there, everything shaking, breaks are not working, transmission is tough - you know for real men only, ABS is not there at all, even producers said so, not talking about such feature like power steering... Producer is only saying we are working on it, some other same damaged people says - oh, but look what a potential it has - it will be Bugatti Veyron in couple of months. Man, there is potential we will have working ABS like it is standardized in other cars too... We have to wait couple of months for power steering repair, but hey, it is still fun to drive in it...

Why that "mysterious" potential was not fulfilled on 1st release or US release? Maybe truth is that such car has NO potential.
Maybe you're right...
P.S.: in the "Top games by current player count" list CloD never appear...where are players?
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:51 AM
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And maybe you're wrong...
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Old 07-21-2011, 08:56 AM
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Because the real potential is missed by miles... And no miracle happened during US release. And it is quite hard to swallow for almost everyone here...
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:02 AM
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Because the real potential is missed by miles... And no miracle happened during US release. And it is quite hard to swallow for almost everyone here...
No only for a few, and it is a touch unfair to expect miracles.
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:11 AM
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No only for a few, and it is a touch unfair to expect miracles.
If it would be just a "few", there would never be anything like Ali Fish petition and flames like never before... And look, I am in my opinion still same. I am not changing "sides". Many like me left for ever and don't care anymore. The last flame wars here are just between fanboys and "former" fanboys... I was always so called "whiner" here...
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Old 07-21-2011, 09:32 AM
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Opitz, if you really had left forever and didn't care you wouldn't be posting in this forum. I believe it was Tree_UK who made the petition not Ali_fish. It is just a few anyway, 80 or so people signed it which in sales terms is a very very small number. In terms of the members on this forum it is a small number. My opinion on wether or not the petition was valid is irrelevant, the moderators make the rules here and what they say goes.

Adonys your post is well reasoned, however you generalise with customers. I am not profoundly unhappy with the game, and I also feel that the communication has been adequate under the circumstances. I have stated this before but I guess once more won't do any harm. The major bugs and problems have been acknowledged by the developers and it has been communicated that these are being worked on as a priority. Until the patch comes out I don't feel another word needs to be said. This is purely my opinion though I can understand that yours is different.
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Old 07-21-2011, 11:37 AM
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Optiz you are lumping me in with somthing i dont actually belong to.. iam actually very positive around here and that petition was not created by me. i have the right to defend my actions too of which i have apologised for.
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