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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-01-2011, 03:53 PM
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Hmm, ok. I think the thing about consoles is that compared to current PCs they do not have the computing power so for a game to run satisfactorally they, by definition, have to have a lower level of complexity. Also the vast majority of people just do not want the hassel or problems caused by too much complexity. Take scenery, it looks just amazing in any old racing or skate game on a console. But what you are seeing is the equivalent to a Hollywood cowboy town. It is just a facade.
What the CloD developers are trying to build on is the old IL2 tradition of an actual simulation that has a vastly greater depth of what you can do, see and experience. The cost of this is a mountain of complexity and problems that no console game designer would even entertain.
What I am saying is that you have a choice. If you want a game to play without bugs or problems then a better choice would be WoP on an Xbox. But if you want a game with the level of detail, the FMs, DMs, possible senarios, the degree in which you can actually get into the game and interact with it then, at the moment, you will just have to accept a certain level of bugs and problems.
No game developer in their right mind would put out a game in the condition CloD was in at the start without very good reason. In my honest opinion I believe that, for whatever reasons, if CloD hadn't come out when it did and the way it did then it just would not have come out at all. I think Luthier is taking a bit of a gamble and I for one don't mind because I want the game to survive and succeed. It's only 30 quid or 50 bucks - it's not like you've been suckered out of your life savings by a bunch of financial con men. You would pay that for an arcade game that would bore you senseless in a week.
I also think it important that bugs are reported. But they need to be reported properly with as much information as possible such as what is happening when the problem arises, comprehensive system specs etc. so that some sort of pattern emerges.
An angry declaration that my game won't launch, crashes or whatever, fix it NOW is pretty pointless.
My other point was - you cannot always be sure that the problem is a true game bug ie. poorly written code that needs sorting and not a system or setup issue that you should put right yourself.
The developers are not trying to rip you off, they are working hard to fix the code and cure the problems.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:12 PM
von Pilsner von Pilsner is offline
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i have the same problem.when i hit esc it brings me to the desktop. another hit and im in game back again.the third hit then brings me to the menu, usually.
I am getting that too, full screen (not psuedo) mode.

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I just don't think it is helpful to assume you have a game bug and demand the developers get it fixed. As has been suggested, maybe you have something else in the game assigned to the esc key which is causing a conflict. Or it could be any number of other things.
Nobody in this thread is 'demanding' anything, they are reporting an in-game problem. I don't think it's helpful to jump in a bug reporting thread and telling people they are wrong and it's not a bug...

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at the moment, you will just have to accept a certain level of bugs and problems.
Hence why people report bugs on the forums so the devs can look into it, ignoring them and assuming that PC games must have bugs is not going to get the sim to the level of playability that some of us want.

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Old 08-04-2011, 11:09 PM
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I can't exit mission with esc key. I have to use ctl+alt+del to exit game every time. Any suggestions?
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:46 PM
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I can't exit mission with esc key. I have to use ctl+alt+del to exit game every time. Any suggestions?

I have the same Problem after long periods of play.
Solution: If asked, instead of using the mouse to click on yes, use the y key.
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The devs need to continue to tweak the FM balance until there is equal amount of whining from both sides.
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Old 08-05-2011, 03:01 AM
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ALT + TAB (I think that's what I was hitting) sometimes gets me back into the game.
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